johnfleet
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Post by johnfleet on Jan 13, 2016 10:59:17 GMT
Hurrah!
for the first time in weeks I was able to buy something on the secondary market! hopefully the shape of things to come...
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Jan 13, 2016 11:45:06 GMT
It probably doesn't need to be too much more sophisticated, since the benefits of bot use on SS are quite small (compared to eg the stock market, or 'last minute bid and flip' on FC), so the incentive to develop a smart one which can get around even simple prevention is not there. Would be good if they'd amend their T&Cs though, so their actions align with the stated intent. You hide your seething very well.  Considering it was people like you who caused all this in the first place. You're deeply confused .. I voted to ban them weeks ago, and looks like I may finally have caused it to happen. I'd still rather have some sort of allocation than captcha-cr&p, but even this is an improvement over where we were when people were claiming there were no such things as SM bots. Maybe the threat to release the source code was unnecessary. 8>.
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dp
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Post by dp on Jan 13, 2016 12:00:09 GMT
It probably doesn't need to be too much more sophisticated, since the benefits of bot use on SS are quite small (compared to eg the stock market, or 'last minute bid and flip' on FC), so the incentive to develop a smart one which can get around even simple prevention is not there. Would be good if they'd amend their T&Cs though, so their actions align with the stated intent. You hide your seething very well. Considering it was people like you who caused all this in the first place. Very well said highlandtiger - Spot on.
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oldgrumpy
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Post by oldgrumpy on Jan 13, 2016 12:16:27 GMT
You hide your seething very well. Considering it was people like you who caused all this in the first place. Very well said highlandtiger - Spot on. I'm with GSV3MIaC on this. Maybe his threat to give everyone the facility was what eventually made SS get off their a***s/head out of the sand etc.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jan 13, 2016 12:30:33 GMT
I'm with GSV3MIaC on this. Maybe his threat to give everyone the facility was what eventually made SS get off their a***s/head out of the sand etc. I suspect that SS did what they always do, quietly watched the thunder & fury as everyone ranted & speculated, looked to see what impact it had on their business model, decided if that impact was sufficient to warrant a response, investigated their options, decided the one that suited them best, went to the pub while their techies did their thing, unleashed the solution, sat back with a cup of tea and watched to see whether the response was positive or negative, patted themselves on the back and went back to sorting loans out. 
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Post by highlandtiger on Jan 13, 2016 12:33:09 GMT
I'm with GSV3MIaC on this. Maybe his threat to give everyone the facility was what eventually made SS get off their a***s/head out of the sand etc. Right, so we have to thank those people who created bots for getting SS to try and stop the bots.mmmmmmmm Perhaps if they hadn't try to game the system in the first place then SS wouldn't have had to do the changes in the first place. I think the fact that 90% of SS's lenders wanted rid if bots had more to do with it than the twisted logic of the botmeisters
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ablender
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Post by ablender on Jan 13, 2016 12:42:22 GMT
I'm with GSV3MIaC on this. Maybe his threat to give everyone the facility was what eventually made SS get off their a***s/head out of the sand etc. Right, so we have to thank those people who created bots for getting SS to try and stop the bots.mmmmmmmm Perhaps if they hadn't try to game the system in the first place then SS wouldn't have had to do the changes in the first place. I think the fact that 90% of SS's lenders wanted rid if bots had more to do with it than the twisted logic of the botmeisters It does not seem that GSV was the one starting all this bot warring. As I see it he was reacting to it in the way that his skills allow.
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Post by highlandtiger on Jan 13, 2016 12:45:06 GMT
Right, so we have to thank those people who created bots for getting SS to try and stop the bots.mmmmmmmm Perhaps if they hadn't try to game the system in the first place then SS wouldn't have had to do the changes in the first place. I think the fact that 90% of SS's lenders wanted rid if bots had more to do with it than the twisted logic of the botmeisters It does not seem that GSV was the one starting all this bot warring. As I see it he was reacting to it in the way that his skills allow. He may not have started it, but he was part of the problem. And he made sure EVERYONE knew about it.
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oldgrumpy
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Post by oldgrumpy on Jan 13, 2016 12:48:25 GMT
And if he hadn't, we would still be where we were before. He was not part of the problem. Too many people (not he) denied there was a problem. He openly decided to prove there was a problem. When still nothing was done, he threatened to give everyone the facility so that no-one was at such a disadvantage. Presumably that would have inundated the SS website so they had to address the problem.
End of problem ... for now.
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ablender
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Post by ablender on Jan 13, 2016 12:48:51 GMT
It does not seem that GSV was the one starting all this bot warring. As I see it he was reacting to it in the way that his skills allow. He may not have started it, but he was part of the problem. And he made sure EVERYONE knew about it. I think that whether we want it or not we were all part of the problem as we all (at least collectively) want to invest more money or diversify. That is why we try to buy on the SM.
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Investor
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Post by Investor on Jan 13, 2016 12:51:14 GMT
It does not seem that GSV was the one starting all this bot warring. As I see it he was reacting to it in the way that his skills allow. He may not have started it, but he was part of the problem. And he made sure EVERYONE knew about it. Should this read 'And he kindly and in a spirit of openness and fairness made sure EVERYONE knew about it.' Would agree with above that GSV3MIaC was part of the solution, not the problem
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Post by SteveT on Jan 13, 2016 12:53:10 GMT
He may not have started it, but he was part of the problem. And he made sure EVERYONE knew about it. Should this read 'And he kindly and in a spirit of openness and fairness made sure EVERYONE knew about it.' ... Thus ending the debate over whether there were bots operating on SS and forcing the pace on finding a solution.
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dp
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Post by dp on Jan 13, 2016 12:56:09 GMT
He may not have started it, but he was part of the problem. And he made sure EVERYONE knew about it. Should this read 'And he kindly and in a spirit of openness and fairness made sure EVERYONE knew about it.' Would agree with above that GSV3MIaC was part of the solution, not the problem Kindly rubbed it in everyone's face on this board. A well.
Either way its now sorted than to Saving Stream.
I'm glad we can now put the "Bot" threads to bed.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jan 13, 2016 12:58:05 GMT
Well you had me worried there for a bit that it was going to get boring but fortunately we've all found something else to argue about Probably time for another cup of tea SS and maybe a biscuit |
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ablender
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Post by ablender on Jan 13, 2016 13:00:46 GMT
We all need to move to the "Please tick the box to confirm you are not a robot" thread.
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Considering it was people like you who caused all this in the first place. 
