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Post by max on Jan 8, 2016 17:11:24 GMT
mikes1531 : mine is just an example with vague reference to a long list of deals that have actually have been struck in past two years thanks to P2P lending. Incidentally, one might find some of these traits in a loan just gone live on FS. One might also find them in a long list in SS and TC. But this is not the point that I’m trying to make here. Valuations for land with planning permissions bear a large component of uncertainty that is openly highlighted in their professional valuations. Very few investors would buy a parcel of land at the valuation price and for the use stated in the valuation. The margins for profit would be too tight (10-20%) and uncertainty on costs and realisation value too large. Better margins can be made by changing the planning permissions at a later stage or obtaining an heavy discount from the original evaluation price. P2P platforms are empowering a growing legion of borrowers who are able to secure heavy discounts via quick buy, cash in hands –our cash. The value of the land with planning after one of these investors fails to realise any additional value and the loan defaults should be expected to carry forward a similar or higher discount.
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Post by Financial Thing on Jan 12, 2016 1:55:12 GMT
I do not understand why you can not discuss particular loans? If you are discussing that you disagree with a certain part of the report surely that is the idea of this forum. The mods will say it better - but they don't want the forum to get into trouble by allowing criticism (esp libel of third parties, such as the valuer mentioned in this thread) Have to say that I think this non specific loan discussion rule is silly. As long as the forum has a disclaimer in its T&C stating that views and opinions expressed do not represent forum owners, they would be fine. If being sued for libel were really an issue, no corporate websites would ever allow comments after articles because someone may say something derogatory. I think loans should be openly discussed.
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Post by sunspot on Jan 12, 2016 3:10:19 GMT
I disagree, my primary concern being to stop people spreading false rumours, either saying good things in order to sell off dodgy stock, or bad things in order to buy more.
Additionally, many people write first and think later, get their wires crossed, or are just plain stupid, jealous or malicious. This may not have a dramatic effect on the secondary market, but if confidence was wrongly shaken in a couple of large primary loans, such that they could not be fulfilled, that would be bad for everyone.
Finally, it avoids suspicions that SS staff members are lurking with dubious intent.
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Post by Financial Thing on Jan 12, 2016 5:28:27 GMT
I disagree, my primary concern being to stop people spreading false rumours, either saying good things in order to sell off dodgy stock, or bad things in order to buy more. Additionally, many people write first and think later, get their wires crossed, or are just plain stupid, jealous or malicious. This may not have a dramatic effect on the secondary market, but if confidence was wrongly shaken in a couple of large primary loans, such that they could not be fulfilled, that would be bad for everyone. Finally, it avoids suspicions that SS staff members are lurking with dubious intent. So censorship solves all? Now I've read everything.
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Post by ablender on Jan 12, 2016 19:46:52 GMT
It is not true that specific loans cannot be discussed. Just go round the various boards and you see threads about specific loans. What cannot be shown here is anything that identifies the borrower for people who are not registered on the particular platform.
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Post by jfm on Jan 13, 2016 21:10:19 GMT
Now I've read everything. Surely you haven't read everything in the bot discussions? You'd have to be a bot to read all that.
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