SteveT
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Post by SteveT on Jan 13, 2016 14:40:49 GMT
Weeeeeeeeeeeee!! At last I've just got past the tick box and bought my first loan part - no image quiz to do. I've now got 2p of Bricknell's Shack to sell Evolution at work !
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Jan 13, 2016 14:57:47 GMT
You do seem to have to turn Adblock off, at least for that page, since otherwise the google widget seems to get blocked, and sends back a null token to SS, who then deduce you are inhuman(e).
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jonno
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Post by jonno on Jan 13, 2016 15:03:41 GMT
I don't believe this. I've just been asked to select those pictures containing BANANAS!! Now then,talking about discrimination,who the bloody hell is that going to advantage?? By the way, I failed miserably (and all for £2.76)
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Post by oldgrumpy on Jan 13, 2016 15:08:04 GMT
I don't believe this. I've just been asked to select those pictures containing BANANAS!! Now then,talking about discrimination,who the bloody hell is that going to advantage?? By the way, I failed miserably (and all for £2.76) ... of course you did.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Jan 13, 2016 15:09:27 GMT
No, it wasn't me!
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Post by ablender on Jan 13, 2016 15:23:46 GMT
Should we start a thread with screen shots of the pictures. We can make an album.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 13, 2016 15:54:46 GMT
I don't believe this. I've just been asked to select those pictures containing BANANAS!! Now then,talking about discrimination,who the bloody hell is that going to advantage?? Certainly not the Grumpster. He's going to take one look at that pic, and forget why he was there. He'll just try and eat the monitor.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Jan 13, 2016 16:17:04 GMT
Perhaps we could start a 'can you solve this captcha' thread, which'd be much cheaper than the usual methods of hiving it off offshore. 8>.
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Post by mack on Jan 13, 2016 17:07:31 GMT
Does this Captcha actually work 100%? Saw some parts go quick again (<1s) to m********3 who is another repetitive buyer...on PBL035 then 025 disappeared quick and they are on that activity list as well.
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Post by james on Jan 13, 2016 17:31:50 GMT
The current system favours fastest fingers, fastest computer and fastest internet connection, not to mention, people who have time on their hands. Mostly correct, fingers are not required to use it. the current system violates equalities legislation, because it places disabled people at a distinct disadvantage. It would only take one person to complain, and SS would have to ditch it. SavingStream would presumably consider responding along these lines: "1. the previous situation severely disadvantaged people with intellectual, learning or other impediments that led to them being unable to practically write fully automated tools for accessing the site, making it in practice impossible for them to use the secondary market at all. We take seriously the need to deal with a broad range of impediments, not solely those relating to movement or the traditionally considered physical limitations. 2. we would welcome any reports of issues from those with physical or other capability restrictions who find that the site is difficult to use, so we can consider how we might in future develop the site to assist. For example, on receipt of appropriate medical evidence we may be able to disable certain checks on an account by account basis if those checks in practice can be shown to produce a material disadvantage compared to alternative solutions such as having carers carry out the activity at the direction of the person with the restriction. We would, of course, have to carefully evaluate any accommodations to ensure that they did not provide an advantage vs those with other limitations." Access for people with restrictions is an important issue but it is also necessary to consider the broad range of restrictions and how the current system has greatly improved accessibility for those who cannot respond within milliseconds.
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Post by cooling_dude on Jan 13, 2016 18:14:14 GMT
Does this Captcha actually work 100%? Saw some parts go quick again (<1s) to m********3 who is another repetitive buyer...on PBL035 then 025 disappeared quick and they are on that activity list as well. Yes; the google re-capture is amongst the best (without being too bothersome to the user) on the net. As for the member m********3, which I to see quite often on the property, transactions page; I’m guessin this is savingstream doing some cleaning up. Just guessing, but maybe m********3 is “Moderator3”?
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Post by sunspot on Jan 13, 2016 18:19:48 GMT
James SS would certainly not be so stupid to respond that way - were they to do so in this day and age, they'd be named and shamed on social media, and likely fall victim to some idiot hacker who wants to join Anonymous.
Of course, you were only being sarcastic, but the law is real, companies simply cannot ignore it.
Incidentally, all SS have done is change the method by which bots must work. Before, they could operate as standalone apps, but now they must operate from within a browser, and if nothing more than a box tick is required, then the usual suspects will be up and running again in no time. In fact, I'm inclined to think that there's already one bot working successfully. And shrapnel has certainly been changing hands, as if testing has begun on others.
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Post by boundah on Jan 13, 2016 18:25:49 GMT
Locutus (of Borg?),You may be unconcerned by legal requirements, that's fine. However, anyone who runs a business MUST COMPLY with the law. It's not an optional thing. In my opinion (but I could be wrong) the SS website falls outside the law for the reasons I have given. If you disagree, that's fine, but given that SS are known to lurk in this forum, they no longer have the excuse of ignorance! Sunspot, you may have gathered by now that nobody supports your stance. If we were to follow your logic, eBay, gambling sites and share-dealing sites would all have to shut up shop.
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Post by registerme on Jan 13, 2016 18:30:50 GMT
sunspot , I think your understanding of the legislation is incorrect. Have a look at my post on page four of this thread - p2pindependentforum.com/post/84923/thread . Particularly point 1b, which is directly copied from the relevant legislation. IMHO "proportional" and "legitimate" are the important words here.
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Post by chris on Jan 13, 2016 18:32:03 GMT
Does this Captcha actually work 100%? Saw some parts go quick again (<1s) to m********3 who is another repetitive buyer...on PBL035 then 025 disappeared quick and they are on that activity list as well. Yes; the google re-capture is amongst the best (without being too bothersome to the user) on the net. As for the member m********3, which I to see quite often on the property, transactions page; I’m guessin this is savingstream doing some cleaning up. Just guessing, but maybe m********3 is “Moderator3”? Apologies for straying out of my "box", but I am watching this with interest as whilst we don't have any issues with bots that may not always be the case so keeping an eye on the arms race is of interest. It's also an interesting UX case study. Captcha's work "mostly". They can be beaten using a mechanical turk solution of some description (paid for service, or some people run large sites that display a captcha that they want solved as part of their own anti-bot strategy), or simply creating a custom interface. So someone could create themselves a control panel that is blank until a loan part is available for sale that their bot wants to get. It then instantly displays the captcha for them to solve manually giving them a small advantage in reaction time and saving on latency for completing the rest of the transaction (such as entering amounts). They can also use things like audio cues to get attention rather than having to watch the screen like a hawk. Some simpler captchas can be solved with computer vision techniques but recaptcha tends to be ahead of those kinds of solutions.
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