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Post by cpaken on Mar 1, 2016 2:09:40 GMT
I'm curious to see if anyone here has lost money on the FS platform before? If so, how much and on which loan?
Thanks for sharing.
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Post by mikes1531 on Mar 1, 2016 2:23:07 GMT
I'm curious to see if anyone here has lost money on the FS platform before? If so, how much and on which loan? The worst cases I can think of are the Lubin Paintings loans (#2002084876 and #654474218).
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Post by stevio on Mar 1, 2016 8:19:49 GMT
Isn't there a default loans thread? Would be good to see somewhere a list and the scale of losses...
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Post by SteveT on Mar 1, 2016 8:29:06 GMT
Isn't there a default loans thread? Would be good to see somewhere a list and the scale of losses... Yes. Just search the FS forum for "Defaulted Loans" Also, all of the default history is available on the FS website, "All Active and Past Loans" page. Just search for "Defaulted"
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Post by rogerbu on Mar 1, 2016 11:23:20 GMT
I'm curious to see if anyone here has lost money on the FS platform before? If so, how much and on which loan? Thanks for sharing. As above. The Lubin paintings returned 70% of capital. So we lost 30% of capital plus all interest expected. Cross fingers!!! The only crystallized loan on FS I have had. My Tax Return from FS for this tax year shows the 30% capital loss, so that will be offsetable against other interest from FS in this tax year.
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Post by sqh on Mar 1, 2016 13:43:19 GMT
I'm curious to see if anyone here has lost money on the FS platform before? If so, how much and on which loan? Thanks for sharing. The capital loss on the paintings plus the loss of interest was greater than my first year's profits. Quite shocking that a 40% LTV could be so badly valued, they were made up of multiple paintings, and most remain unsold. IMO, the valuer should be named and shamed, after all, what professional person would not honour their valuation by offering to purchase at 40% of it's value.
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Post by eascogo on Mar 1, 2016 13:44:01 GMT
I'm curious to see if anyone here has lost money on the FS platform before? If so, how much and on which loan? Thanks for sharing. As above. The Lubin paintings returned 70% of capital. So we lost 30% of capital plus all interest expected. Cross fingers!!! The only crystallized loan on FS I have had. My Tax Return from FS for this tax year shows the 30% capital loss, so that will be offsetable against other interest from FS in this tax year.Are p2p losses tax deductible? I thought that policy was still in debate and if applicable only for the coming 2016/17 tax year.
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Post by rogerbu on Mar 1, 2016 16:24:36 GMT
As above. The Lubin paintings returned 70% of capital. So we lost 30% of capital plus all interest expected. Cross fingers!!! The only crystallized loan on FS I have had. My Tax Return from FS for this tax year shows the 30% capital loss, so that will be offsetable against other interest from FS in this tax year.Are p2p losses tax deductible? I thought that policy was still in debate and if applicable only for the coming 2016/17 tax year. The HMRC briefing document www.gov.uk/government/publications/bad-debt-relief-for-peer-to-peer-investments/bad-debt-relief-for-peer-to-peer-investments specifically says that 'In the case of bad debts arising on eligible P2P loans between 6 April 2015 and 5 April 2016, investors in P2P loans will be able to make a claim to set those losses against interest received in the same tax year from any other eligible P2P loans.' So losses in 15/16 tax year are deductible in the same tax year against income from any P2P platform. (no definition of what is a P2P platform seems available.)
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Post by eascogo on Mar 1, 2016 17:24:27 GMT
Are p2p losses tax deductible? I thought that policy was still in debate and if applicable only for the coming 2016/17 tax year. The HMRC briefing document www.gov.uk/government/publications/bad-debt-relief-for-peer-to-peer-investments/bad-debt-relief-for-peer-to-peer-investments specifically says that 'In the case of bad debts arising on eligible P2P loans between 6 April 2015 and 5 April 2016, investors in P2P loans will be able to make a claim to set those losses against interest received in the same tax year from any other eligible P2P loans.' So losses in 15/16 tax year are deductible in the same tax year against income from any P2P platform. (no definition of what is a P2P platform seems available.) rogerbu. Thanks for clarifying this.
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Post by cpaken on Mar 1, 2016 21:44:20 GMT
Isn't there a default loans thread? Would be good to see somewhere a list and the scale of losses... Yes. Just search the FS forum for "Defaulted Loans" Also, all of the default history is available on the FS website, "All Active and Past Loans" page. Just search for "Defaulted" Thanks. I can see there's only 5 loans there, that's less than I thought. With the "Recovered" loans, did FS paid back the capital + full interest or just the capital?
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Post by SteveT on Mar 2, 2016 6:40:38 GMT
Thanks. I can see there's only 5 loans there, that's less than I thought. With the "Recovered" loans, did FS paid back the capital + full interest or just the capital? Capital plus full interest I believe, although I wasn't in them all.
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Post by mikes1531 on Mar 2, 2016 15:17:04 GMT
Thanks. I can see there's only 5 loans there, that's less than I thought. With the "Recovered" loans, did FS paid back the capital + full interest or just the capital? Capital plus full interest I believe, although I wasn't in them all. cpaken: I can't be sure, but IIRC there was a motorcycle that sold for enough to return all the capital but no interest. If you look at the individual loan pages for the recovered loans there should be notes/updates that show what the final outcome was.
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Post by mikes1531 on Mar 3, 2016 13:48:17 GMT
Further to the above, I've looked at the FS loan list and their definitions are... The motorcycle that returned capital but no interest is classified as Defaulted.
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Post by sqh on Mar 3, 2016 14:08:29 GMT
572782847- 2 Diamond Rings returned 76.7% of capital and no interest. I seem to remember a max bid of £100, so nobody lost more than £23.30. Of course yours truly had the max bid.
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Post by stevio on Mar 5, 2016 19:54:08 GMT
Isn't there a default loans thread? Would be good to see somewhere a list and the scale of losses... Yes. Just search the FS forum for "Defaulted Loans" Also, all of the default history is available on the FS website, "All Active and Past Loans" page. Just search for "Defaulted" What sort of % of the total number of loans made have defaulted? I know this isn't an exact figure as the loans vary by amount, but still would be interesting to know
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