mikes1531
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Post by mikes1531 on Mar 15, 2014 3:25:12 GMT
I'd be happy to place a 'shadow' bid, but I'm not prepared to put £10k into a single loan, so I guess all I can do is just watch and wait until enough more bids come in that I'm convinced the loan will be fully funded. Inasmuch as it's less than 5% funded at the moment, that may take a while. And then hope to be able to place a bid before it fills completely. Ditto. In the meanime my initial due-dillegence has thrown up a couple of minor observations: google maps doesn't recognise the address of the storage facility given in their website footer but gves an approximate position (of a quaint countryside road) ... I don't know if I'm looking at the same place as mrclondon, but Google has a Via di Castel Pulci very near the Firenze suburb of Badia a Settimo. One side of the road is residential and the other looks like a light industrial/office park behind security fencing. I saw no mention of the company involved, but if I were in the business of storing valuable things I don't think I'd want my name to be very prominent.
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Post by mikes1531 on Mar 17, 2014 14:58:32 GMT
Has the end date of this auction been moved?
IIRC, it first appeared last Wednesday, and showed as having six or seven days remaining at that time. Today, five days later, it's showing four days remaining.
Does anyone know how to tell the exact end date/time of an auction? When the display switches from two days remaining to one day remaining, does that mean there are 48 hours left or 24 hours left?
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Post by alison on Mar 17, 2014 15:15:02 GMT
Has the end date of this auction been moved? IIRC, it first appeared last Wednesday, and showed as having six or seven days remaining at that time. Today, five days later, it's showing four days remaining. Does anyone know how to tell the exact end date/time of an auction? When the display switches from two days remaining to one day remaining, does that mean there are 48 hours left or 24 hours left? It says 1 day now!!
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Post by mikes1531 on Mar 17, 2014 15:25:43 GMT
Has the end date of this auction been moved? IIRC, it first appeared last Wednesday, and showed as having six or seven days remaining at that time. Today, five days later, it's showing four days remaining. Does anyone know how to tell the exact end date/time of an auction? When the display switches from two days remaining to one day remaining, does that mean there are 48 hours left or 24 hours left? It says 1 day now!! I does indeed. I can't explain that, though it wouldn't be the first time I've noted a website problem here and had it go away very soon thereafter -- with no comment from FS.
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ramblin rose
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Post by ramblin rose on Mar 17, 2014 16:05:07 GMT
Really can't decide what to do with this one. I was one of the people who indicated a willingness to invest a significant sum, with certain caveats, one of which was relating to the interest rate. 10% just doesn't interest (sic!) me enough to make it such an obvious choice. Even with a 20% LTV this one strikes me as fairly risky, and unlike other similar platforms FS aren't saying they would cover our losses if it all turns bad. On the other hand, the main competitor with better returns has no new loans available to me at the moment (I already re-invested a significant sum in the renewing loan that's available). So, what to do? Think I'll just sit on my hands for a while longer.
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Post by bugs4me on Mar 17, 2014 16:20:56 GMT
Really can't decide what to do with this one. I was one of the people who indicated a willingness to invest a significant sum, with certain caveats, one of which was relating to the interest rate. 10% just doesn't interest (sic!) me enough to make it such an obvious choice. Even with a 20% LTV this one strikes me as fairly risky, and unlike other similar platforms FS aren't saying they would cover our losses if it all turns bad. On the other hand, the main competitor with better returns has no new loans available to me at the moment (I already re-invested a significant sum in the renewing loan that's available). So, what to do? Think I'll just sit on my hands for a while longer. Agreed, the interest rate is slightly below what I was hoping for plus I would like to view a full copy of the valuation report - obviously redacted where necessary. There are other P2P/P2B platforms offering 1% per month provided you dip into the aftermarket for them.
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Post by mikes1531 on Mar 17, 2014 18:59:17 GMT
Really can't decide what to do with this one. I was one of the people who indicated a willingness to invest a significant sum, with certain caveats, one of which was relating to the interest rate. 10% just doesn't interest (sic!) me enough to make it such an obvious choice. Even with a 20% LTV this one strikes me as fairly risky, and unlike other similar platforms FS aren't saying they would cover our losses if it all turns bad. On the other hand, the main competitor with better returns has no new loans available to me at the moment (I already re-invested a significant sum in the renewing loan that's available). So, what to do? Think I'll just sit on my hands for a while longer. 'Tis a dilemma. With such a low LTV, I would think that the risk of the security being insufficient is pretty minimal. I see two other risks, however, that do concern me... - If it turns out that the security has to be sold to recover the principal, I'd expect that to be a protracted process because of the specialised nature of the books. That market has to be pretty 'thin'. And while I accept that the LTV is so low that a sale could be organised very quickly and still achieve the necessary amount, rushing to auction could upset the borrower to the point that they sue FS for 'dumping' the books. FS may have all the law on their side, but the amount at stake is huge, and so is the potential upset to the borrower. FS being in one country and the security being in another is bound to complicate things as well.
- Will FS be able to fund the loan? If I make a bid tomorrow, how long might it be before I start earning interest? A significant 'dead' period on a short loan would cause my actual return to be well below the nominal 10% rate.
Based on emails received from savers last month regarding a loan of this size, we are confident that we can fill this loan. As with large loans on other peer-to-peer platforms, we anticipate the usual rush towards the end of the period.
I do hope FS's confidence is not misplaced, as it would be very good for the platform if the loan proceeded. I can understand that smaller lenders might want to wait until they're convinced the loan is going to happen, but larger lenders have been given the opportunity to shadow bid. That gives them the opportunity to guarantee their participation in the loan but not to have to come up with the cash until the loan is completely funded and therefore is sure to proceed. Having removed the 'dead' money risk, I would have thought that if the large lenders who said last month that they would invest in such a loan if it were offered really were serious then they would have placed shadow bids by now. At this point I see just four bids that are large enough to be shadow bids -- three at £10k, and and one at £25k. At the moment, we're down to one day remaining, the loan is less than 13% funded, and that's a bit concerning. Where is the other £523k going to come from? If I'm not allowed to place a shadow bid because I'm not prepared to put £10k into this loan, then I'm going to hold off bidding until I'm convinced that this loan really will happen. PS. In case people haven't been watching the list of lenders carefully, the lender offering £25k has a userID that happens to match the name of one of FS's co-founders. There's no guarantee, of course, that that's who the lender really is, but it does seem quite possible. If that's the case, then uptake of this loan from 'ordinary' FS lenders is even shorter of the amount required than might appear at first glance.
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ramblin rose
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Post by ramblin rose on Mar 17, 2014 19:17:24 GMT
- If it turns out ................................ FS being in one country and the security being in another is bound to complicate things as well.
And the security is in a country where I have lived and had very many dealings over the years - it's the source of a large part of my reticence on this one. That said, if the borrower were to be persuaded into offering an interest rate that made up for my misgivings I might well come down on the side of taking the risk on.
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Post by Jim on Mar 18, 2014 13:28:39 GMT
Interest Rate now raised to 13%.
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Post by fundingsecure on Mar 18, 2014 13:35:37 GMT
Hello
This is to inform you that, having consulted with a number of savers yesterday and observed the comments on this forum, the borrower has agreed to raise the interest rate from 10% to 13%. We have also secured a commitment from an underwriter to a value of £250,000.
In response to the post about the investment of £25,000, this has been made by one of our directors. We felt that it was important that we demonstrate our personal confidence in the security of the loan.
Finally, as the first funding period is due to expire today, we will be placing the loan on live loans for a further 7 days.
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Post by andy2001 on Mar 25, 2014 17:08:11 GMT
Now only needs 500k min. and up to 463k.
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Post by mikes1531 on Mar 27, 2014 23:52:27 GMT
Now only needs 500k min. and up to 463k. Now has pledges of £516k so is proceeding towards drawdown. FS have decided to leave the loan live while finishing the legalities in case more people want to get in on this opportunity.
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Post by debeast on Mar 28, 2014 15:45:37 GMT
It is nice to see the big loans on FS . But i am still worried by the bugs in the website that have been there since the beginning. Went to go add a few more pennies to this one and i was still logged in from yesterday. ah well
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Post by mikes1531 on Mar 28, 2014 18:22:30 GMT
Went to go add a few more pennies to this one and i was still logged in from yesterday. Is this a case of you not having deliberately logged out and the system not having logged you out because of inactivity? If so, that's a known problem. If, on the other hand, you did deliberately log out and the system didn't deal with that properly, then it's a bigger problem and should be raised with FS.
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Post by debeast on Mar 28, 2014 18:50:36 GMT
The known problem
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