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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 15:01:09 GMT
jonahYes, I just downloaded the paper and it is the aforementioned deal. The anonymity bit at the top did tickle me slightly. Certainly a landmark for AC and p2p for a loan of this size to a publicly listed company. Though I thought the structure and security of the deal was, um, interesting...
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Post by smrutib on Apr 1, 2016 15:57:54 GMT
Isn't this in essence an unsecured loan? I cannot imagine a scenario where the company defaults and its shares retain any significant value. Am I missing something here?
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Post by chris on Apr 1, 2016 18:29:18 GMT
Isn't this in essence an unsecured loan? I cannot imagine a scenario where the company defaults and its shares retain any significant value. Am I missing something here? I've discussed this with the credit team and have the following information to share. It is common for a company of this size and nature to be able to borrow funds without specific tangible and direct asset security and instead lenders are protected through covenants. As detailed in the credit report there is a current asset cover of 1.75 times, and crucially a market capitalisation / debt covenant which states that the market cap should be at least 4 times debt. These two, in combination with the interest and leverage covenants that are also in the credit report, provide both a security level and a time element for the company to remedy as a variety of financing options would be open to them, which could include raising further equity. Given the nature of being a public company and with a current market capitalisation of around £13.5m we trust you understand we cannot speculate further on such matters. I've also suggested to the rest of the management team that for all our big loans, and certainly those of a slightly more complex nature like this one, we'll organise a conference call where lenders can discuss concerns directly with the team, so that we can help you all understand each loan, the risks, and the mitigants so that you can make an educated investment decision. Even if you choose not to invest at least we can be sure then that it's for the right reasons rather than just because we hadn't made something clear. The rest of the team have accepted that this would be a good idea to at least trial so hopefully we'll be able to announce something along those lines in the next week. In the mean time feel free to use the Q&A functionality or phone the lender support team directly. I'll also do my best to keep an eye on the forum over the weekend.
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Post by upland on Apr 1, 2016 19:33:00 GMT
I would have a few concerns about something like this.
I cannot locate the documents etc as mentioned in the email from Assetz.
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Post by jonah on Apr 1, 2016 20:43:01 GMT
jonah Yes, I just downloaded the paper and it is the aforementioned deal. The anonymity bit at the top did tickle me slightly. Certainly a landmark for AC and p2p for a loan of this size to a publicly listed company. Though I thought the structure and security of the deal was, um, interesting... It's back I see! Was this ever in the upcoming or did it go straight from pipeline to live? Ive now read this twice through. Whilst I think I get the main principles and they seem sound, I really don't get how the numbers and security stack up. I may give it a third read after a nights sleep, but my current thinking is a pass with 'I don't understand enough' as my justification. Not that may involvement would be more than a rounding error for some people!
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Post by chris on Apr 1, 2016 20:47:14 GMT
jonah Yes, I just downloaded the paper and it is the aforementioned deal. The anonymity bit at the top did tickle me slightly. Certainly a landmark for AC and p2p for a loan of this size to a publicly listed company. Though I thought the structure and security of the deal was, um, interesting... It's back I see! Was this ever in the upcoming or did it go straight from pipeline to live? Ive now read this twice through. Whilst I think I get the main principles and they seem sound, I really don't get how the numbers and security stack up. I may give it a third read after a nights sleep, but my current thinking is a pass with 'I don't understand enough' as my justification. Not that may involvement would be more than a rounding error for some people! It jumped from pipeline to live for a variety of behind the scenes reasons with how it was funded with the underwriters. If you don't understand and would like to then please ask us any questions you may have. We have a team of people ready to explain the loan.
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Post by profunder on Apr 4, 2016 20:42:29 GMT
Can you confirm that the QAA did not underwrite this loan?
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Post by profunder on Apr 4, 2016 20:43:49 GMT
Or aquire the rest of the new loan parts immediately to fix underwriting shortages?
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Post by chris on Apr 4, 2016 20:49:45 GMT
The QAA holds some loan units in the loan but we don't currently divulge the makeup of the holdings. You can speak to the customer services team if you want to find out more as they may have a more in depth answer than I can give.
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Post by ilmoro on May 10, 2016 9:19:45 GMT
Positive performance update provided on company site.
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