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Post by adrianc on Jul 30, 2016 9:32:26 GMT
Well, OK, they don't lend money out... except for those projects where they're lending money out. Which I've avoided, because there's better platforms for that...
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Post by phil on Jul 30, 2016 10:58:11 GMT
Well, OK, they don't lend money out... except for those projects where they're lending money out. Which I've avoided, because there's better platforms for that... I'd hazard a guess that it'd be remarkably easy to avoid such loans if one was unaware they existed.  Which platforms do you consider better for bridging loans? Cheers Phil.
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Post by adrianc on Jul 30, 2016 12:45:18 GMT
Which platforms do you consider better for bridging loans? SS scratches that itch for me.
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Post by am80 on Aug 3, 2016 21:38:05 GMT
Hi all,
After finding much useful information on this forum (and others) I've decided to get involved in this to supplement my own buy to lets. I'm about to sign up for FundingSecure and wondering if anyone wants to have £50 credited to their account (if they still do this) then I'll use their link to sign up.
Thanks.
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Post by pom on Aug 4, 2016 8:33:15 GMT
Hi all, After finding much useful information on this forum (and others) I've decided to get involved in this to supplement my own buy to lets. I'm about to sign up for FundingSecure and wondering if anyone wants to have £50 credited to their account (if they still do this) then I'll use their link to sign up. Thanks. If you post on the FS board I'm sure someone will oblige - I would send you mine but according to the small print both parties need to invest at least £1000 which I did (more than) originally, but wouldn't want to risk them declaring it invalid given I currently have rather less than that (stuck in a defaulted loan) and am not adding any more ! Good luck
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Post by pom on Aug 11, 2016 13:16:35 GMT
Well I've now had accounts for 2 out of my 3 BTLs...and even tho looking at their latest deals they do appear to be being a bit more transparent, and I was probably unfortunate in choosing to invest before their significant drop in fees I definitely won't be trusting them to invest any more. I actually had to double check they were in fact referring to the same properties I originally downloaded details for due to fees mentioned in passing in various documents but not included in the financials. I'm not so bothered about the first year's returns, I accept they'll always be reduced because of start up times etc, it's actually the forecast returns for next year that I find more "interesting", and that paint a very different picture. For example, an HMO whose best case future dividend return is 4.4%....
Yeah so they may have cleaned up a bit, looks like they reduced their fees, appear to now be quoting net returns (although the latest summary I looked at still makes no mention of management company fees so that still may be an unexpected sting, as although the name HCPM would suggest they manage it themselves it appears not) but even if they suddenly start being totally transparent, and stop charging for stuff that PM include in their fees, they've now definitely lost me - the only thing stopping me trying to sell out is that it would wipe out more than a year's returns!
Their loss, PM's continued gain
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Post by hazellend on Aug 12, 2016 20:43:35 GMT
Agree property moose far superior
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Post by invest on Nov 5, 2016 15:33:05 GMT
adrianc hazellendIt is this true that currently, property moose has some advantages over the house crowd, but it still makes sense to invest in both, for the simple reason of diversification. adrianc Saving stream is surely liquid than property moose and the house crowd, but relying solely on it to relieve your itch might leave you with a permanent itch the future  As I believe that the recent drop in interest rates for SS , in my opinion, is the first in a sequence. For the sake of our investments we should encourage the house crowd go out to improve their platform Lower minimum investment Periodic rental payments or dividend payments A secondary market. They have already made significant improvements from their initial site and I applaud that, I am sure that in the future property moose and the house crowd out will have comparable functions on their sites. In the meantime all we can do is ask for them
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Post by adrianc on Nov 5, 2016 16:11:30 GMT
adrianc hazellend It is this true that currently, property moose has some advantages over the house crowd, but it still makes sense to invest in both, for the simple reason of diversification. adrianc Saving stream is surely liquid than property moose and the house crowd, but relying solely on it to relieve your itch might leave you with a permanent itch the future  As I believe that the recent drop in interest rates for SS , in my opinion, is the first in a sequence. For the sake of our investments we should encourage the house crowd go out to improve their platform No argument there - and between PM and THC, I have about 40% as much as I've got in SS. BUT... my returns on PM are currently <4.5% across 15 months, and on THC <1.8% across 20 months. I do appreciate that it's not that simple - not all my THC projects have even paid out a first payment yet, let alone a single second payment or a project closing with capital growth - and the first payout is inevitably heavily depressed. But...
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