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Post by df on Jan 5, 2018 13:07:52 GMT
A few basic questions (I am being probably naive) like why not bite the bullet and submit new plans, how long will it take to get that approval, is there a suggestion that planning would not be forthcoming now, why is the borrower not paying interest on the loan ? Funds could be locked up in this loan for years. So can Lendy do anything ? Submitting plans and getting approval can take a very long time. Yes, funds can be locked for years, this one is already 6 months overdue. I guess Lendy could do fire sale and recover some of the capital, which will result in loss of some capital and acquired interest+bonus that lenders are expecting to receive.
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Post by sussexlender on Feb 17, 2018 9:43:35 GMT
Just had a drive around and nothing happening here.
Some might think that the borrower has run out of excuses and giving instructions to his solicitor to delay what seems inevitable. Would Hastings Planning department really have no record of a previously approved scheme?
One could ask why the borrower has not made any effort to keep paying the interest and paid the overdue interest if he is so sure that his plans match the original grant? It would be in his best interests to pay up as in the end it is now costing him far more than planned and may soon become uneconomical.
Might be best at this stage for Lendy to take control and sell. There is a very clear demand for assisted apartments in this area. Another developer would no doubt submit new plans that would not be "lost".
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Post by sussexlender on Feb 27, 2018 13:24:57 GMT
Still no sign of any activity here.
Come on Lendy, just default it and sell the land off and get rid of these hopeless borrowers and their useless advisors.
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Post by sussexlender on Mar 11, 2018 9:16:35 GMT
With reference to cooling-dudes original post as long ago as June 2006 - a quick look on the Hastings planning website reveals that the original approval for this site was for the demolition of a house and the erection of 117 apartments granted in 1989 (application 1988) and a certificate of lawful development granted in 2006. An attempt by a local resident to have it become a public amenity was refused in 2005.
The plans for the 117 apartments are still available on the website.
It appears that some work was carried out on the site in 1991 [the demolition / road access / electricity supply] hence the certificate issued in 2006. All clearly available on the website.
There is no sign of any new or current application or revised / amended plans.
Some might think that whilst the Borrower seller now has the cash, this Borrower is just sitting on the land lenders cash without doing anything and without now paying the due interest.. All very curious?
At least the land still exits and can be seen and inspected. LENDY, please can we have a real update rather than being fobbed off by the solicitors?
Best wishes SXLR.
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Post by elliotn on Mar 11, 2018 11:12:06 GMT
The loan was for purchase so presumably the seller is sitting on our cash.
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Post by sussexlender on Mar 11, 2018 13:58:53 GMT
Quite right, I got that wrong. The seller will be very happy.
This Borrower appears to be sitting on his hands by not submitting new plans to assist the Planning Department or to improve his own position or to start the development. It does not make sense.
Worse still he is in default as he is not paying the interest he continues to owe to lenders - so he has the land and is failing to repay his debts which is a very poor show.
If I get the chance I will call in at the Planning department to ask to inspect the public file and speak to the planning department to see what is really going on.
Regards, SXLR
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Post by sussexlender on Mar 25, 2018 19:09:11 GMT
Valuation £3 m; Loan of £2.1 million.
There does not appear to be anything new on the planning website. Regret to inform lenders that there is still nothing happening on the site.
Update from Lendy dated 16.03.2018 stated they are "awaiting an update from the planning authority". They are unlikely to get one if nothing new has been submitted by the borrower.
The Borrower has made no attempt to pay anything since the loan term came to an end. They are in deliberate default (unable to pay / or refusing to pay ?) by 258 days with interest now approximately £178,000 not paid plus the bonus of 2.5% adding a further £37,000 not paid. Some might ask if this Borrower is funding his new plans etc using our interest payments?
An entire new set of plans and architect fees would be unlikely to cost £200,000. So why has the borrower not just submitted updated plans to deal with the ground issues and to comply with new Building Regs?
Why have they been allowed to simply stop paying any interest ?
Does anyone else think Lendy should come clean and tell us what is really going on here, or perhaps just call in the loan and sell this plot to a developer who knows how to draw a set of revised plans?
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Post by df on Mar 25, 2018 19:54:37 GMT
Valuation £3 m; Loan of £2.1 million. There does not appear to be anything new on the planning website. Regret to inform lenders that there is still nothing happening on the site. Update from Lendy dated 16.03.2018 stated they are "awaiting an update from the planning authority". They are unlikely to get one if nothing new has been submitted by the borrower. The Borrower has made no attempt to pay anything since the loan term came to an end. They are in deliberate default (unable to pay / or refusing to pay ?) by 258 days with interest now approximately £178,000 not paid plus the bonus of 2.5% adding a further £37,000 not paid. Some might ask if this Borrower is funding his new plans etc using our interest payments? An entire new set of plans and architect fees would be unlikely to cost £200,000. So why has the borrower not just submitted updated plans to deal with the ground issues and to comply with new Building Regs? Why have they been allowed to simply stop paying any interest ? Does anyone else think Lendy should come clean and tell us what is really going on here, or perhaps just call in the loan and sell this plot to a developer who knows how to draw a set of revised plans?
I don't think they can tell us any details, but I would prefer if they sell it asap for what it really worth, make partial repayment and then tell us that "strategy to recover the outstanding capital, accrued interest and bonus accrual is now well underway".
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Post by sussexlender on Mar 27, 2018 6:21:50 GMT
It seems the Borrower / his advisers are doing nothing. I would urge someone from Lendy to make the effort to travel to the Hastings planning office and take a look at the current file.
There has been no attempt to even pay reduced interest to lenders.
The only good thing is that the land is still there and has not just disappeared.
This loan really needs to be called in so the land can be sold quickly during the summer.
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Post by mary on Mar 27, 2018 6:34:18 GMT
It seems the Borrower / his advisers are doing nothing. I would urge someone from Lendy to make the effort to travel to the Hastings planning office and take a look at the current file.
There has been no attempt to even pay reduced interest to lenders.
The only good thing is that the land is still there and has not just disappeared.
This loan really needs to be called in so the land can be sold quickly during the summer. Completely agree. As Lendy starts to get more real about recovery, and is engaging with borrowers through votes, it is beyond me as to why no action has been taken here?
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Post by sqh on Mar 27, 2018 6:47:32 GMT
I think we need to congratulate harvey for this post when the loan went live. I certainly never forgot his wise words of wisdom.
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Post by rocky1 on Mar 27, 2018 7:02:00 GMT
This is very interesting because I live in East Sussex not far from St Leonards and I also know this site by sight and I read the local papers and keep abreast of things like this and I can tell people here that people have been trying and failing to develop this site for as long as I can remember. It's been there unchanged through several property booms and still it's never been viable to build it. As others have said St Leonards is very run down now. When it was built in the Victorian era it was the posh residential end of Hastings but all those big grand buildings have been carved up into Flats and bedsits and there is a large immigrant population and lots of transient people and frankly there are all the associated social problems with things like drugs. In general it's not considered a very desirable area and it's not the safest place I wouldn't want to be out around there at night on my own. Consequently there isn't a lot of demand for property and that's why property values are so low. Have a look on Rightmove and you can see how cheap you can pick up a flat in St Leonards. This site has always been blighted because it's not level and steep and requires piling and basically a lot of abnormal development costs. I have to say that I would be very surprised if any developer would start such a development in an area like that with all the abnormal costs for only a 17.5% profit at the end of it if it all goes to plan. Personally I would suggest that a developer would be looking for a higher than average profit to reflect the higher than normal risk for a residential development. I would say such a scheme is only borderline viable in the now. In a year or two time if we have the slightest downturn which looks likely then I can't see that site being saleable at all. I appreciate the valuer has done a detailed residual valuation but those sorts of valuations are so sensitive to the slightest change in the numbers and percentages you enter that you can almost end up with any answer you want. It looks like the value has been put into the site because of the view that the near 30 year old planning permission has been implemented and is thus still valid and therefore you wouldn't need to build the usual proportion of affordable housing which drags the viability of a scheme down. However notwithstanding the numbers which I respect the valuers professional opinion on, my own personal opinion from my knowledge of the area and the fact that site has been dormant for the best part of 20 or 30 years and no developer has felt able to do anything with it despite the council having it allocated for residential development for ages and ages, my opinion is that 3 million pounds for that site if you sort it in that area of St Leonards seems an awful lot and I'd be amazed if anyone in the real market would pay that for it in the event it had to be sold. I wonder if a local valuer with local knowledge and expertise would have used a lot more judgement rather than rely on a spreadsheet to turn out an answer. In summary I am going to have a little bit of this but I won't be holding it anywhere near until maturity because I fail this one is very high risk and in fact I will be quite surprised if this site gets developed in my lifetime. cant say we wasnt warned about this funny how LENDY story was very different
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Post by sussexlender on Mar 27, 2018 10:00:05 GMT
Agreed.
The Borrower has failed / has refused to pay additional interest which would have been an option.
They have had an interest free loan for in excess of 258 days.
The borrower is doing nothing so Lendy should now take action.
After 259 days of default there is no possibility of getting this Borrower to pay the outstanding debt and the idea of 2.5 % bonus interest is just a pipe dream.
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Post by Monetus on Mar 28, 2018 12:05:47 GMT
The updates on this loan are ridiculous....
We've been hoping for a "resolution to the planning issue over the next few weeks." since NOVEMBER!
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Post by p2plender on Mar 29, 2018 8:42:59 GMT
Maybe the should spend time on the blower chasing debtors rather than trying to spin ---- to investors?
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