empirica
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Post by empirica on May 10, 2018 21:38:21 GMT
Hello Lendy
Why not book a cheap day return to the sunny south coast at Hastings for Friday to enjoy the sunshine and pop in to the planning department and ask to inspect the file on this disastrous loan that you promoted and now seem intent on allowing to drift on ?
Some investors might be asking if you checked to see if the seller and borrower were connected in some way?
This must be one of their closest loans. Hard to think that Lendy hasn't had 'boots on the ground' at some point.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on May 11, 2018 7:40:51 GMT
Isle of Wight is probably closer, and look how well that went ...
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Post by sussexlender on May 11, 2018 11:41:09 GMT
Anyone else remember this up date from nearly 8 months ago?
" 28/09/2017 PBL103 - Site with planning for 117 units nr Hastings Repayment has been delayed due to a planning issue identified. The council have lost some drawings, although these are in the course of being re-created. The borrower and their solicitor expect the council to confirm approval within two weeks"
That 2 week period would have taken us all to 12th October 2017. As no new plans appear to ever have been submitted (they would appear on the web site if they had been) it would be impossible for the council to give any approval at any stage - with or without the inconvenience of the recent excuse given of a delay due to the local elections. This appears to have been a clear misstatement from the Borrower via the solicitor.
This is taking on a similar theme as the mess that FC managed to create with the 5 highly suspect London Hotel Loans (see the entries in the FC section).
No interest being paid by the borrower and no response from Lendy.
What do other investors in this loan think about the handling of their capital and the failure by Lendy to obtain additional payments of interest?
This bit of land is in an area where new houses / flats are being built at this very moment. Get possession and sell it.
Regards, SXLR
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Post by Monetus on May 11, 2018 11:52:52 GMT
Are you reading Lendy Support ? You could continue to ignore the fairly glaring issues with this loan that have been raised here on numerous occasions, but how about addressing them instead? -Why are waiting on an "update" from a borrower for 8 months when there's clearly no suitable planning application in place? -Why are you refusing to directly answer the questions we've raised in regards to the planning? -Why is the borrower paying no interest? -Why are you refusing to take action on this borrower and forcing us to sit in a suspended loan for 8 months with virtually no explanation? This isn't going to go away...
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Post by sussexlender on May 14, 2018 8:15:06 GMT
There is now a totally useless update on this suspect loan.
Lendy tell investors they have seen a copy of a letter sent to the planning department. So is that is all they have done to investigate this tardy borrower given the serious concerns raised in this thread ?
Get out of the Southsea office and go and inspect the planning file. You are responsible for promoting this loan so go and protect our investment by getting the real picture, then act on our behalf to force the issue.
Knowledgeable investors will note that the information machine that is Lendy support does not tell us the DATE of the letter and it clearly did not contain the new plans we were told were being created / submitted. There are no new plans on the website.
The solicitors were asking for a redemption figure last year and for March this year. How is this borrower suddenly going to repay if he is unable to even pay / or offer to pay the on going monthly interest still due to us ?
Some may think that this stalling tactic has all the hallmarks of a very clever scheme to extract money from investors, via Lendy, and they owe us a duty of care to catch this borrower out and put and end to this fiasco.
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Post by SteveT on May 14, 2018 10:54:07 GMT
There were plenty of warnings before this loan even went live (see posts at the top of this thread, and also the valuation report!) to indicate it was high risk and rather likely to hit problems. If this site ever gets developed, I'll be quite surprised.
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Post by sussexlender on May 14, 2018 12:11:52 GMT
True, there are warnings for every loan on every p2p sites.
Do you suggest we just give up ?
Would you prefer that this thread now gets a downward arrow as it is becoming a thorn in the side of Lendy?
I have made a positive suggestion that the file actually be inspected. What suggestion do you have to resolve this impasse?
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Post by SteveT on May 14, 2018 13:18:00 GMT
My point was only that if lenders didn’t fill these “dog” loans then platforms might learn sooner to be more discriminating. This one was much dodgier than your “average” P2P loan; how many VRs do you see that actually warn that the proposed development may be problematic?!
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Post by withnell on May 14, 2018 14:12:45 GMT
how many VRs do you see that actually warn that the proposed development may be problematic?! There would be an expectation that this comment would be taken into account by the surveyor when calculating the market value though?
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Post by SteveT on May 14, 2018 14:28:59 GMT
how many VRs do you see that actually warn that the proposed development may be problematic?! There would be an expectation that this comment would be taken into account by the surveyor when calculating the market value though? No, the Valuation Methodology (section 14) makes it clear that all it is valuing is the residual land value on the assumption that the proposed development goes forward and is completed. The likelihood of the proposed development ever seeing the light of day has no bearing on that residual value, which makes the valuer’s words of caution about the feasibility of the scheme all the more important.
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Post by r1200gs on May 14, 2018 14:34:26 GMT
My point was only that if lenders didn’t fill these “dog” loans then platforms might learn sooner to be more discriminating. This one was much dodgier than your “average” P2P loan; how many VRs do you see that actually warn that the proposed development may be problematic?! The problem is the fresh meat that reads the warnings but don't think this means that platforms will present loans that are almost certainly doomed to failure resulting in capital loss. Surely no platform would even think of doing that? Yea, right..... It's all very well some of us old hands being a little more clued up these days, but as long as the new money rolls in.
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Post by sussexlender on May 14, 2018 15:27:21 GMT
Be this a dog" loan or not - what do you suggest is done to resolve this impasse? No additional positive idea in the above entries.
The problems were outlined as structural and previous planning not that the borrower would simply be allowed to stop repayments / repay on time and that Lendy would do nothing.
Give us a constructive idea to move this forward. Mine has been that they go and inspect the file which is easy to do and what they are paid to do to protect all our interests.
What is your suggestion?
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Post by SteveT on May 14, 2018 16:11:13 GMT
Be this a dog" loan or not - what do you suggest is done to resolve this impasse? No additional positive idea in the above entries. The problems were outlined as structural and previous planning not that the borrower would simply be allowed to stop repayments / repay on time and that Lendy would do nothing. Give us a constructive idea to move this forward. Mine has been that they go and inspect the file which is easy to do and what they are paid to do to protect all our interests. What is your suggestion? I've not been following closely but it appears the loan is now over 300 days overdue and the borrower's been giving Lendy the runaround for months. So my "suggestion" is to face facts, default the loan, appoint an LPA Receiver and sell the site to the highest bidder. This will likely crystallise a significant capital loss, but that seemed possible (likely even) from the outset. Learn lessons for next time. Move on. Lendy's strategy here is presumably much like Funding Secure's with various of their "not much hope of recovering the capital in a fire sale" loans (eg. the power boats): cross all fingers and hope the tall stories that the borrower keep spinning miraculously bear fruit one day. If they investigate too closely, they'll have little option but to default it.
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Post by Monetus on May 14, 2018 17:09:14 GMT
If they investigate too closely, they'll have little option but to default it. I think is the key statement and it totally sums up Lendy's position on this loan. Ignorance is bliss.
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Post by michaelc on May 14, 2018 17:18:23 GMT
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