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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 18:50:21 GMT
Hi Paul. So just tell us when will loan 122 be repaid? sussexlender He already has !! Apr 18, 2017 14:26:49 GMT 1 Paul said: All, PBL167 will repay PBL122 once 167 completes (i.e. is drawn down, which is expected this month). Until then all monies are held in the client account. If you're invested in both then you'll earn interest on both loans.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 18:53:54 GMT
Hi all, I do not agree that anyone has been misled, and would politely ask that people refrain from the more inflammatory language on the forum. I do however feel that we could have been clearer, and will keep an eye on rollovers in future. I am sorry if the loan has inconvenienced anyone. Paul64 you can try your best to control the hoards but if you take a gander over on the Bondmason board we have stevefindlay considering leaving due to having to constantly attempt to appease a stream of criticism as over the top as threatening FCA action due to the minimum deposit terms changing! Then when you've all gone there will be mass criticism that the platforms aren't communicating, got to love it here !!
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Post by sussexlender on Apr 18, 2017 18:58:46 GMT
Hi Paul. So just tell us when will loan 122 be repaid? sussexlender He already has !! Apr 18, 2017 14:26:49 GMT 1 Paul said: All, PBL167 will repay PBL122 once 167 completes (i.e. is drawn down, which is expected this month). Until then all monies are held in the client account. If you're invested in both then you'll earn interest on both loans. Hi Jester. Thanks for the post. I see that 167 shows as not yet drawn down so 122 is still pending. My mistake.
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Post by Liz on Apr 18, 2017 19:00:57 GMT
Hi all, I do not agree that anyone has been misled, and would politely ask that people refrain from the more inflammatory language on the forum. I do however feel that we could have been clearer, and will keep an eye on rollovers in future. I am sorry if the loan has inconvenienced anyone. Paul64 you can try your best to control the hoards but if you take a gander over on the Bondmason board we have stevefindlay considering leaving due to having to constantly attempt to appease a stream of criticism as over the top as threatening FCA action due to the minimum deposit terms changing! Then when you've all gone there will be mass criticism that the platforms aren't communicating, got to love it here !! Paul64, If you never posted on here again I wouldn't blame you.
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Post by ianj on Apr 18, 2017 19:06:10 GMT
Hi all, I do not agree that anyone has been misled, and would politely ask that people refrain from the more inflammatory language on the forum. I do however feel that we could have been clearer, and will keep an eye on rollovers in future. I am sorry if the loan has inconvenienced anyone. There may not have been any intention to mislead, but if something is capable of being misunderstood, it will be! Will you ever understand that misunderstandings resulting from receipt of misunderstandable communication were, and will for ever be, quite understandably, inevitable? V. poor D- ....... Must try harder.
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Post by dzo on Apr 18, 2017 19:06:31 GMT
Paul64 you can try your best to control the hoards but if you take a gander over on the Bondmason board we have stevefindlay considering leaving due to having to constantly attempt to appease a stream of criticism as over the top as threatening FCA action due to the minimum deposit terms changing! Then when you've all gone there will be mass criticism that the platforms aren't communicating, got to love it here !! Paul64 , If you never posted on here again I wouldn't blame you. Some recent posts are a bit embarrassing. I'm not surprised Lendy don't post here more often.
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Post by ianj on Apr 18, 2017 19:14:37 GMT
Hi all, I do not agree that anyone has been misled, and would politely ask that people refrain from the more inflammatory language on the forum. I do however feel that we could have been clearer, and will keep an eye on rollovers in future. I am sorry if the loan has inconvenienced anyone. Paul64 you can try your best to control the hoards but if you take a gander over on the Bondmason board we have stevefindlay considering leaving due to having to constantly attempt to appease a stream of criticism as over the top as threatening FCA action due to the minimum deposit terms changing! Then when you've all gone there will be mass criticism that the platforms aren't communicating, got to love it here !! A SOTBO I know, but if communicators communicated in a manner that was unambiguous they would have less reason to hide behind the barricades!
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Post by vmail on Apr 18, 2017 19:23:10 GMT
When PBL167 completes
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 18, 2017 19:42:56 GMT
Holding platforms "to account" is part of the role of this forum. But so is the ability to have a constructive dialogue between forum members and the platforms.
There are ways to express 'disgruntlement' which facilitate constructive dialogue. Then there are some of the posts in this thread and in others.
A sure fire way to result in platforms disengaging from the forum is to either personally attack/insult representives of the platform or one of their colleagues, or to make statements to which a rep is unlikely to be able to respond to without involving their lawyers.
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Post by GeorgeT on Apr 18, 2017 19:55:56 GMT
I accept there was no intention to mislead, but misleading it was. Last update on PBL122 - "This loan will be repaid and relaunched into PBL167" That statement, then, was wrong. It states clearly and unambiguously that PBL122 would be repaid and then be relaunched as PBL167. 'Repaid' followed by 'Relaunched' denotes a clear, sequence of events. It wasn't done that way, leading to investor confusion. If something that is written or said misleads people, then it is misleading by definition. That Paul accepts that LfSS 'could have been clearer' seems to be an acceptance that the information to investors was not up to scratch on this one. I'm afraid when it comes to handling people's money, saying 'could have been clearer' after an event, isn't really good enough. Communications need to be clear and unambiguous. The audience of Lendy investors and P2P forum users is of at least average intelligence and many people did not understand how this loan repayment and relaunch was being managed. Therefore the communication was misleading. Fortunately, thanks to Paul's clarification, we now belatedly understand the situation.
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Post by mikes1531 on Apr 18, 2017 22:14:41 GMT
Fortunately, thanks to Paul's clarification, we now belatedly understand the situation. Unfortunately, the 'we' who now understand are a tiny minority of PBL122 investors, because not that many investors follow this forum. I won't use the inflammatory 'misled', but I will say I misunderstood what was going to happen, partly because of what LfSS had told us, and partly because I had assumed this follow-on situation would be handled as SS had done in similar circumstances in the past. Earlier, I sent an email to LfSS Customer Support asking for clarification of this situation but I've not had a response yet, other than an acknowledgement that my message was received. Unless CS turnaround has improved in the last few days, it probably will be a week before I receive a response. Inasmuch as Paul64 has acknowledged to us that the situation could have been made clearer, and inasmuch as such a small portion of PBL122 investors will have seen this thread, ISTM that LfSS really need to send an email to all PBL122 investors clarifying the situation. If they want PBL122 investors to clear their negative balances sooner rather than later, they need to ask the investors to do so.
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Post by p2p2p on Apr 19, 2017 6:19:33 GMT
I emailed them Tuesday at 6pm and got a response at midnight requesting I add new funds, which I don't have. I responded this morning asking Lendy to not remove my new allocation, and expressing my concern that I now have double the exposure I wanted to a company at a very high LTV. I think in future Lendy need to make the timescales for linked loans like this crystal clear, and avoid vague words like "launch"
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Post by lendinglawyer on Apr 19, 2017 6:37:37 GMT
I emailed them Tuesday at 6pm and got a response at midnight requesting I add new funds, which I don't have. I responded this morning asking Lendy to not remove my new allocation, and expressing my concern that I now have double the exposure I wanted to a company at a very high LTV. I think in future Lendy need to make the timescales for linked loans like this crystal clear, and avoid vague words like "launch" The LTV is not "very high" (by which I assume you mean >70%). Well it would be if 167 was drawn down and both loans outstanding simultaneously, but as when 167 drawdown happens 122 will be immediately repaid it's a very form over substance view as 167 is currently fully cash backed and could be cancelled and investors repaid easily from that cash. The rest of your point remains valid - I think Lendy should stall the requirement to resolve negative balances until drawdown which we are told is soon. Or at the very least should allow wales of 167 notwithstanding the negative balance created by having pre-funded it in the face of uncertainty.
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Post by adrianc on Apr 19, 2017 7:09:33 GMT
I do however feel that we could have been clearer... You aren't wrong there. The update on 122 on the 31st March said... The update on 122 last Friday, the very day 167 actually went live, said...
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Post by jcb208 on Apr 19, 2017 11:56:46 GMT
I decided to sell my PBL122 in the end ,was all gone in 2 hours,at least my negative balance has gone
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