elliotn
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Post by elliotn on Nov 1, 2017 13:13:41 GMT
Suspended.
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Post by martin44 on Nov 1, 2017 13:20:39 GMT
Great!! Another one bites the dust.
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mikes1531
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Post by mikes1531 on Nov 1, 2017 22:11:39 GMT
Anyone holding this loan may want to check the update 28/09/17 in light of the recent loan suspensions. 50% of the loan is to be repaid by Friday (which doesn't appear to have been mentioned in the loan overview). A few days ago, I asked Lendy where they had told potential investors of this significant requirement of the loan agreement. I received a response from George today... How's that for keeping investors informed? I really can't imagine that the FCA would consider withholding such information to be an appropriate practice!
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Post by wightknight on Nov 3, 2017 15:53:18 GMT
Another one. I wonder when it will disclosed that this one isn't worth anything near the valuation. A bunch of derelict farm buildings worth 4.3m?
I wish I had been more skeptical.
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withnell
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Post by withnell on Apr 25, 2018 15:11:57 GMT
On a popular site for sale at 2.25m - at the asking price it's a c.85% recovery. Valuation report put a 90day sale value of 3.442m
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poppyland
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Post by poppyland on Apr 28, 2018 8:37:47 GMT
On a popular site for sale at 2.25m - at the asking price it's a c.85% recovery. Valuation report put a 90day sale value of 3.442m It would be good if Lendy themselves would give us the actual figures, rather than vague statements like "valued at significantly less than the original valuation". As people who have their capital tied up in these projects we deserve as much information as possible, particularly relating to what our potential losses might be. Lendy hiding behind vague statements and words like "non-performing" and "claims underway" does nothing to restore my confidence in them. Nor, in fact does the rash of positive reviews on Trust pilot, along with the removal of many of the old negative reviews. I know that some people on this forum are keen to see Lendy as reformed and trustworthy, but I personally see no real evidence of that.
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Mousey
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Post by Mousey on May 1, 2018 19:07:28 GMT
I've got 4 figures in this. Interestingly the administration report at company’s house lists the "anticipated future realisation" of the fixed assets as £2,000,000 with an "anticipated distribution" of £1,742,600 to Lendy.
Key points from the report:
2.7 "for the development to be viable, it required the purchase of the additional land" (ie 50 acres that were not included in the sale) 2.4 "the company originally hoped to purchase additional land adjacent to the farm, however the funding available to the company was not sufficient"
- Clearly the project was doomed to failure from the beginning then if the additional land couldn’t be purchased.
3.1 “The second tranche of funds loaned by Lendy was based on a formal independent valuation carried out in Feb 2017 … the site was valued at £4,590,000 and £3,442,000 on a 90 day sale. This however was based on the property being freehold and included the additional land”
- The valuation report was produced assuming access to the additional land. It was therefore never accurate to produce a 90 day sale and another valuation should have been carried out.
6.7 The total amount due to Lendy as of the date of the report (12/4/18) was £3,076,504. - This includes a nice whack of Lendy fees
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Post by broker2020 on May 2, 2018 9:50:25 GMT
So what you are saying is that Lendy raised the money using the wrong valuation ie it included the land when in fact the land was not part of the deal?
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Mousey
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Post by Mousey on May 2, 2018 10:29:41 GMT
The valuation included the extra 50 acres that were never part of the site. In the loan particulars Lendy states: "The total site comprises 82.5 acres, c 50 acres of which are being retained by the vendor (the value of our security has been reduced by £250,000 to reflect this)." There is no indication as to how this £250,000 was calculated and the lack of additional land was not used by the surveyor to formulate the 90-day distressed sale figure. Something has gone seriously wrong if the opinion of the Administrators is to be believed "for the development to be viable, it required the purchase of the additional land". Had the surveyor been made aware of the actual site that needed to be valued I suspect we would have had different figures and maybe a different opinion on its suitability for security. Have I got anything incorrect here Lendy Support Paul64 ?
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webwizard
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Post by webwizard on May 2, 2018 10:36:17 GMT
So what you are saying is that Lendy raised the money using the wrong valuation ie it included the land when in fact the land was not part of the deal? Right move have this property listed and ' an additional adjoining 42 acres available by separate negotiation'. If this is part of the same property, I am not sure why the administrators did not included it. Maybe it never was part of the property and still owned by a neighbour. So the £2.25m might not reflect the full worth of the asset but equally the farm might not be able to function as a business without it. Needs clarification from Lendy on this one. Should have been something identified in due diligence.
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Post by broker2020 on May 2, 2018 10:39:38 GMT
But the money raised and the LTV used was based on the property including the land. Therefore if the land was not included in the deal then Lendy should have reissued a new valuation, not to do so is tantamount to serious misrepresentation.
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Mousey
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Post by Mousey on May 2, 2018 10:43:31 GMT
So what you are saying is that Lendy raised the money using the wrong valuation ie it included the land when in fact the land was not part of the deal? Right move have this property listed and ' an additional adjoining 42 acres available by separate negotiation'. If this is part of the same property, I am not sure why the administrators did not included it. Maybe it never was part of the property and still owned by a neighbour. So the £2.25m might not reflect the full worth of the asset but equally the foarm might not be able to function as a business without it. Needs clarification from Lendy on this one. Should have been something identified in due diligence. Exactly, the administrators refer to this: "the company originally hoped to purchase additional land adjacent to the farm, however the funding available to the company was not sufficient"
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Post by broker2020 on May 2, 2018 11:50:52 GMT
I find this deeply problematic we put our money in, based upon the valuation of the property with the land included not without the land.
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jwatson
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Post by jwatson on May 2, 2018 12:03:33 GMT
I find this deeply problematic we put our money in, based upon the valuation of the property with the land included not without the land. Yes, and it's happened before, in the Exeter loan (and possibly the IoW one as well though I'm not in that one).
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Post by broker2020 on May 2, 2018 12:05:20 GMT
Maybe I am missing something here, but is that not fraud?
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