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Post by fundingsecure on Jul 18, 2016 13:42:11 GMT
CHANGE TO START OF INTEREST ACCRUAL For all NEW loans listed from today all investors will earn interest from the date the bid is placed on a loan - regardless of when the loan is posted / activated. There are a number of areas where this will result in further changes, details of which are listed in an email sent to all existing investors, viewable here.We believe this is a positive move, ensuring interest starts as soon as an investor commits to a loan. Please contact us directly if you have any questions relating to this change. FundingSecure
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Post by SteveT on Jul 18, 2016 14:45:25 GMT
Overall this seems a logical and generally positive change. However I think it will mean those buying into a new loan early will be slightly disadvantaged (versus those buying in later) if/when then they look to sell their loan part via the SM. By definition, their accrued interest will be a little higher, so the projected yield to a buyer will be a little lower, so their parts will appear lower down when ranked by yield.
A simple way to help this would be to add finer discrimination of SM discounts, so one doesn't have to add as much as 0.25% more discount to move up.
The way to fix this fully (and address the SM tax quirks) would be to change the T&Cs so that rights to accrued interest remain with the seller, as per many other platforms
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Post by fp on Jul 18, 2016 14:56:38 GMT
I have to agree with you there SteveT, the only thing holding me back from investing more in FS is the quirky secondary market
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Post by sqh on Jul 18, 2016 23:21:19 GMT
CHANGE TO START OF INTEREST ACCRUAL For all NEW loans listed from today all investors will earn interest from the date the bid is placed on a loan - regardless of when the loan is posted / activated. There are a number of areas where this will result in further changes, details of which are listed in an email sent to all existing investors, viewable here.We believe this is a positive move, ensuring interest starts as soon as an investor commits to a loan. Please contact us directly if you have any questions relating to this change. FundingSecure fundingsecure Has this change caused a problem with the SM ? Currently no loans available on SM. First noticed after midnight. Edit: Seems that lenders need to relist their loans.
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 19, 2016 0:25:23 GMT
CHANGE TO START OF INTEREST ACCRUAL For all NEW loans listed from today all investors will earn interest from the date the bid is placed on a loan - regardless of when the loan is posted / activated. There are a number of areas where this will result in further changes, details of which are listed in an email sent to all existing investors, viewable here.We believe this is a positive move, ensuring interest starts as soon as an investor commits to a loan. Please contact us directly if you have any questions relating to this change. FundingSecure fundingsecure Has this change caused a problem with the SM ? Currently no loans available on SM. First noticed after midnight. Edit: Seems that lenders need to relist their loans. And that is in no way annoying if you had a lot listed On the bright side, currently less than 100 listings so not much competition for sales, might shift some stuff at a premium
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Post by stevio on Jul 19, 2016 17:05:15 GMT
CHANGE TO START OF INTEREST ACCRUAL For all NEW loans listed from today all investors will earn interest from the date the bid is placed on a loan - regardless of when the loan is posted / activated. There are a number of areas where this will result in further changes, details of which are listed in an email sent to all existing investors, viewable here.We believe this is a positive move, ensuring interest starts as soon as an investor commits to a loan. Please contact us directly if you have any questions relating to this change. FundingSecure just wanted to see this is a very positive things fundingsecure
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Post by spyrogyra on Jul 20, 2016 12:06:45 GMT
Oh, yeah? Finally a good change, finally heard what lenders were asking for ages. Could have done themselves a big favor if they had introduced that model ages ago.
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Post by mrclondon on Aug 21, 2016 10:34:02 GMT
CHANGE TO START OF INTEREST ACCRUAL For all NEW loans listed from today all investors will earn interest from the date the bid is placed on a loan - regardless of when the loan is posted / activated. There are a number of areas where this will result in further changes, details of which are listed in an email sent to all existing investors, viewable here.We believe this is a positive move, ensuring interest starts as soon as an investor commits to a loan. Please contact us directly if you have any questions relating to this change. FundingSecure Ummm ... I think I missed the obvious implication of the capitalised NEW in that announcement a month ago, as in NEW = new to the platform, and hence excludes renewals which continue to pay interest from the date of activation (normally within a few working hours of the loan filling). In the "Investments awaiting activation" at the bottom of www.fundingsecure.com/myaccount/current-investments NEW loans show days active incrementing from the day of investment whilst renewals remain at 0 days. Which probably helps explains why large renewals are very slow to fill as any new loans on offer pay instant interest. fundingsecure rather than offering bonuses on the farm building renewal, wouldn't you have been better offering instant interest ? Having now realised my mistake, I won't be in a hurry to invest in renewals.
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Post by fp on Aug 21, 2016 11:13:23 GMT
You just answered my question there mrclondon, I have one which I invested in quite a few days ago showing zero days active
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Post by SteveT on Aug 21, 2016 12:28:32 GMT
If so, that's out of line with what their email said about renewals (accessible via the link above):
"RENEWALS Anyone rolling over their investment will receive interest up to the point the old loan is closed and the new loan activated. They will then earn interest from the start date of the new loan, ensuring unbroken interest payment. Anyone choosing not to rollover their investments will receive interest up to the point the new loan is activated and the old loan is closed. Any new investments in the renewed loan will earn interest from the date they place the bid."
The last sentence doesn't distinguish between renewals of "old" loans and future renewals of "new" loans. However, I guess it may require some intervention at the point of activation.
[My assumption was that rolled-over funds would stay at 0 days until activated, since the funds are still earning interest in the old loan, whilst additional / new funds would start accruing days immediately]
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Post by mrclondon on Aug 21, 2016 12:56:54 GMT
Thanks for that SteveT even though it leaves me totally confused given both rolled over amounts and new investments into renewal loans are showing the same 0 days accrued many days after the investments. fundingsecure if this is simply a website glitch it would be sensible to get it fixed as a matter of urgency as it will be putting people off from lending into renewal loans.
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Post by sqh on Aug 21, 2016 13:17:43 GMT
About 2 weeks ago I spoke to a lady at Funding Secure about interest start date for renewals. I was told that they do pay interest from date of investment. I was surprised because this means FS pay double the interest rate on the unfilled part of the loan until it fills. The lady I spoke to confirmed it with a director.
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Post by SteveT on Aug 21, 2016 13:33:41 GMT
About 2 weeks ago I spoke to a lady at Funding Secure about interest start date for renewals. I was told that they do pay interest from date of investment. I was surprised because this means FS pay double the interest rate on the unfilled part of the loan until it fills. The lady I spoke to confirmed it with a director. I think that's correct, a decision FS took to ensure both existing and new funds were attracted into renewal loans. Otherwise there is a disincentive for one or other type to invest in renewals.
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Post by sqh on Aug 21, 2016 14:09:05 GMT
About 2 weeks ago I spoke to a lady at Funding Secure about interest start date for renewals. I was told that they do pay interest from date of investment. I was surprised because this means FS pay double the interest rate on the unfilled part of the loan until it fills. The lady I spoke to confirmed it with a director. I think that's correct, a decision FS took to ensure both existing and new funds were attracted into renewal loans. Otherwise there is a disincentive for one or other type to invest in renewals. I did suggest that lenders who chose not to renew be repaid each time a new investment is made. That way FS don't pay double the interest rate. FS were going to consider this, but I suspect the software needs to sort out which bids to repay first. The fairest way would be FIFO.
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Post by fundingsecure on Aug 21, 2016 14:10:29 GMT
SteveT,
just to reconfirm - that is correct.
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