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Post by GSV3MIaC on Sept 7, 2016 15:14:25 GMT
That's fine and dandy if there is no danger you might want your capital back, and similarly no risk that inflation and interest rates would both hit 25% (again) during the loan.
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Post by jamesc on Sept 7, 2016 15:34:45 GMT
That's fine and dandy if there is no danger you might want your capital back, and similarly no risk that inflation and interest rates would both hit 25% (again) during the loan. Nothing to say the loan could not be sold during its life, and given that inflation has never been above 10% in the last 30 years and interest only briefly spiked above 10% twice during that period that's a risk I would bite your hand off to take.
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Post by gaspilot on Sept 10, 2016 8:20:44 GMT
There's a loan on FS for two properties in Br***h. The company borrowing seems to have two directors (W*******K L****G LTD) - one of whom is also a director of M***R Q**Y LTD. They're asking for £800K on 2 properties valued at £1.5M. I wonder why they went to FS this time around.
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Post by cooling_dude on Sept 10, 2016 9:12:35 GMT
There's a loan on FS for two properties in Br***h. The company borrowing seems to have two directors (W*******K L****G LTD) - one of whom is also a director of M***R Q**Y LTD. They're asking for £800K on 2 properties valued at £1.5M. I wonder why they went to FS this time around. SS possibly didn't want themselves exposed to this borrower too much; they already let another loan (same borrower), which was in the pipeline for many months, dissipate (that SPV subsequently went bust...).
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Post by elliotn on Oct 3, 2016 6:42:00 GMT
While this is not drawndown are we only exposed to platform risk ie our unused funds remain in client account and Lendy paying interest itself?
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Post by cooling_dude on Oct 3, 2016 8:36:45 GMT
While this is not drawndown are we only exposed to platform risk ie our unused funds remain in client account and Lendy paying interest itself? 50% ish right... This loan "rolled on" (This was not forced on the investors) from PBL054, which was a £1,787,500 loan. This new loan simply increased the loan (due to a new plot of land being added to the security) & term, and as such, the only part of the loan that has not drawndown is the increased part of the loan. Also, remember that all loans include the interest which is held back, so the interest here will be taken from that pot. However, what happens with the "lull" has never been fully explained by SS (if SS are covering it, or if the borrower covers it).
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Post by elliotn on Oct 3, 2016 10:34:29 GMT
Yes, of course interest prefunded So amount borrowed currently 1.8M against the combined land makes at least bit less risky until drawn? Altho someone just flooded SM with about 35k
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Post by savingstream on Oct 3, 2016 11:31:23 GMT
All funds are sat in the client account whilst we get the deal through legals.
The borrower is paying the interest on this loan.
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Post by mikes1531 on Oct 3, 2016 13:21:36 GMT
Yes, of course interest prefunded So amount borrowed currently 1.8M against the combined land makes at least bit less risky until drawn? Altho someone just flooded SM with about 35k AFAIK, until the legals are complete and the new loan is drawn down, SS won't have security on the extra property. So the £1.8M currently lent is secured only on the original security.
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Post by elliotn on Oct 6, 2016 6:24:09 GMT
Yes, of course interest prefunded So amount borrowed currently 1.8M against the combined land makes at least bit less risky until drawn? Altho someone just flooded SM with about 35k AFAIK, until the legals are complete and the new loan is drawn down, SS won't have security on the extra property. So the £1.8M currently lent is secured only on the original security. Thank you C_D and Mike, pls excuse ignorance as finessing my understanding after a full 1 1/2 weeks on the platform! At the moment we have pre-funded 3.4m GBP whilst 1st Charge remains at 1.8m GBP vs original loan, so no repayment risk if replacement loan falls through during legals?
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Post by nick on Oct 6, 2016 7:55:34 GMT
AFAIK, until the legals are complete and the new loan is drawn down, SS won't have security on the extra property. So the £1.8M currently lent is secured only on the original security. Thank you C_D and Mike, pls excuse ignorance as finessing my understanding after a full 1 1/2 weeks on the platform! At the moment we have pre-funded 3.4m GBP whilst 1st Charge remains at 1.8m GBP vs original loan, so no repayment risk if replacement loan falls through during legals? It is a bit of a bizarre situation. The old loan has been repaid to original investors yet the new loan has yet to complete. Effectively SS has bought out the original lenders (as the borrower hasn't repaid) whilst funds for the new loan are being held in the client account prior to completion. I can only assume that SS are funding the bridging period with their own funds and not with client money........
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Post by twoheads on Nov 11, 2016 15:00:09 GMT
Last SS update reads (11/11): "2 weeks ago: Expected to finally complete at the end of October." Still not drawn down so there can be nothing to worry about except that the loan may be cancelled and the lenders refunded. Is this likely? An SS update would be good.
I have posted the comment above on the Q&A for the loan. Never tried that before. Does it have any effect?
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Post by twoheads on Nov 11, 2016 15:41:09 GMT
SS replied to my query inside half an hour. Very efficient.
Thank you for getting in touch. This loan in still in the legal process, but is servicing interest. However, if the loan does not complete then the money invested will be returned to all investors. An official update is scheduled to be published via our website shortly.
Looking forward to discovering their definition of 'shortly'.
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Post by mikes1531 on Nov 11, 2016 16:10:30 GMT
All funds are sat in the client account whilst we get the deal through legals. savingstream: When you referred to "all funds" above, do you mean the full £4.8M of PBL131? Or just the difference between that and the £1.8M of PBL054 that was rolled forward into PBL131? Still not drawn down so there can be nothing to worry about except that the loan may be cancelled and the lenders refunded. twoheads: If SS answer Yes to my first question above, then you should be right that there's nothing for PBL131 investors to worry about. If they answer No to that and Yes to my second question, then in order to refund all PBL131 investors' money they'd need to retrieve the PBL054 money which, presumably, the borrower still has. Or SS/Lendy would have to combine £1.8M of their own working capital with the amount in the client account to refund PBL131 investors in full and then pursue the recovery themselves to replenish their working capital. If they're willing to do that, then PBL131 investors wouldn't have a problem. Finally, with respect to SS's comment that the borrower "is servicing interest", I wonder if that means the interest on the full £4.8M of PBL131, or just the interest on the £1.8M they already have. If the latter, then there's a £30k/month drain on SS/Lendy's resources.
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Post by micky on Nov 11, 2016 16:13:44 GMT
On Oct 3rd..SS did say
'All funds are sat in the client account whilst we get the deal through legals.
The borrower is paying the interest on this loan'.
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