mary
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Post by mary on Mar 2, 2018 21:00:32 GMT
None, I was mainly speculating on the quid pro quo of the apparent new deal, and the known fact that, irrespective of any bonus stated against a loan, no bonus is paid if a loan is extended. Do you mean it sounds like a 'win-win' for them and more 'jam tomorrow' for us? Both.
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Post by brightspark on Mar 2, 2018 21:03:16 GMT
Looks like I am to be dragged screaming and kicking into a refinance. I wanted out like now. If Lendy want happy investors they should fix the secondary market by abolishing fixed pricing. Another 6 months of this squirming and wriggling is not my cup of tea.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Mar 2, 2018 21:21:18 GMT
I agree - if the buyer wants a refinance, let's talk about appropriate rates, durations, and security .. US, the lenders, and them, the borrower .. if I want to be stitched up with no say in the deal I have Few Choices as a platform for that.
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Post by Jeepers on Mar 2, 2018 21:36:37 GMT
It's this sort of thing which is making LY the most profitable p2p platform by far.
NO doubt Lendy are stringing the borrower up be his balls with fees etc for this refinance but us lenders continue on the same terms as before.
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Post by rocky1 on Mar 3, 2018 7:59:46 GMT
almost every loan you go into now you are in it till the end. MT aredoing the same now with etensions/renewals etc.put you money in and watch it go from tranche to tranche to IA/BA then extended then renewal with more funds to the borrower.its called the circle of lendy.you are in it till the end
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Post by jcb208 on Mar 3, 2018 9:03:39 GMT
We should be given the option to opt out and have repayment ,then a new loan placed on the platform. I only invested in the last tranche as I was led to believe repayment was within 1-2 months.I can see a full repayment years away if ever
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Post by Jeepers on Mar 3, 2018 9:11:40 GMT
We should be given the option to opt out and have repayment ,then a new loan placed on the platform. I only invested in the last tranche as I was led to believe repayment was within 1-2 months.I can see a full repayment years away if ever Yes, in an ideal world but Lendy knows that nobody want to fund new loans hence 2% CB so where would the money come from ?
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Post by Carter on Mar 3, 2018 9:29:30 GMT
We should be given the option to opt out and have repayment ,then a new loan placed on the platform. I only invested in the last tranche as I was led to believe repayment was within 1-2 months.I can see a full repayment years away if ever Yes it's a good point and also agree with GSV3MIaC above, after mulling it over and thinking back over the loan history. I'm sure I'm not alone in being overweight in this one and the plea from Lendy to get the last tranche filled to get this done on the premise that repayment would follow shortly seemed acceptable at the time. The partial payment will reduce exposure but it's not the outcome we were expecting. Given the new situation and that the security package has changed this should be launched as a revised PBL ideally and lenders can judge it on its merits. Instead existing lenders are effectively locked in. I don't know the reality of a new PBL getting filled and not sure where that would leave us other than to force the borrower to refinance to another platform and repay the remaining loan amount. From Lendys perspective this is probably still viewed as a good earner and why risk losing it to another platform.
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Post by bugs4me on Mar 3, 2018 9:34:59 GMT
<snip> its called the circle of lendy.you are in it till the end <snip> To be more precise, you are in it until LY decide it is the end and not the original loan terms that investors decided to get involved. Original loan terms seem to be meaningless now with many platforms until the SM eases and with (what appears to be) confidence ebbing away slowly from certain P2P lending platforms then we're just stuck.
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Post by r1200gs on Mar 3, 2018 9:39:57 GMT
I tend to think that this is a new loan under new terms, with old lenders being railroaded in to being a part of it. A finished working project at around 50 percent LTV would go down well I feel and give current lenders their long awaited exit.
I also wonder where this "working capital" is going. There is a good argument to suggest all proceeds of this sale should be going to lenders and if the working capital is going to the borrowers other businesses, that's not on at all.
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Post by rocky1 on Mar 3, 2018 10:59:57 GMT
i could do with a bit of working capital myself how about it LENDY i promise to pay it back with interest when you have finished playing around with my hard earnt and release my funds.if i commit funds to tranche 1 of any thing it does not mean i still want to be around years later in the same loan.
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Post by mikes1531 on Mar 4, 2018 0:43:06 GMT
Given the new situation and that the security package has changed this should be launched as a revised PBL ideally and lenders can judge it on its merits. Instead existing lenders are effectively locked in. I don't know the reality of a new PBL getting filled ... I don't know either, but I suspect Lendy have seen from the performance of the most recent loans released that they couldn't count on sufficient support to launch a new PBL and simply hope enough investors would allow their DFL005 funds to be rolled over into the new PBL. They also know what happened with the interest credited to investors' accounts a few days ago, and we can guess it wasn't what they would have liked. As a result, IMHO they feel they have to lock their DFL005 investors into an extension in order for it to work. About all that those who would rather have had an easy exit can hope for is that the principal reduction and the consequent LTV decrease, plus a promise -- could we be so lucky? -- that there will not be further tranches offered, coupled with the extension, will make the parts of the continuing loan attractive enough to investors that the backlog of parts on the SM will be taken up and those who want to exit can do so without having to stand in the SM queue for an excessive time. I suppose I really ought to put my rose-tinted specs away now!
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Post by blata on Mar 4, 2018 9:08:11 GMT
As long as the interests rolling in I tend to feel better and the security seems enhanced( famous last words) so the way this has panned out has suited me but I can see how it upsets many people.
I still will not be putting any more money into the platform until DFL001/002 and a few others have been resolved, its not to hard to make a commercial decision , would rather a sensible decision that returns my capital plus a bit then a fire sale.
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Post by zlb on Mar 4, 2018 12:09:11 GMT
Agree. I don't think L knows how to judge the 'electorate'. Think "commercial decision" or action to 'gain trust' could do a lot.
L could make the decision to clearly list what terms apply to each loan, rather than when I asked, referring me to the risk statement (if the terms are cloudy, how would anyone know the risk?). Diversification doesn't work when there are multiple loans, not just in default, but are looking like they won't be recovered.
L now known from press to be one of the most profitable p2p.
One of the things I pick up, is that L seem to have blind faith in their capabilities. So what would prompt them to think a "commercial decision" is required? And would FCA rules permit?
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Post by loftankerman on Mar 4, 2018 12:59:29 GMT
I decided over 12 months ago that I was on my way out of SS/Lendy because I was getting the same low key vibes that I ignored when to my significant cost I didn't get out of Equitable Life in time. I am not risk averse, I am deceit averse. I am not pointing the finger at Lendy as the originators of the deceit, but I have no basis for believing much of what I am told, and can't anticipate discovering what others somewhere may be putting far more effort into hiding. In that respect, investing becomes like betting on a horse because the jockey is wearing the prettiest colours. If I was that much a gambling man, I'd do it down at the betting shop because there when my horse had passed the post, they'd just give me my winnings and not tell me they'd decided to put it on a donkey in the 4:30 on my behalf. I'm not getting out of P2P, I have twenty times my remaining Lendy investment elsewhere and am content with it.
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