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Post by fp on Oct 16, 2016 9:43:40 GMT
Looking at the poll, SS must have 36 accounts on here
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pom
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Post by pom on Oct 16, 2016 9:53:43 GMT
ALL loans? Hell no. Some 11% or lower? Hopefully, as the deal flow really seems to have been drying up recently, but only if there's good evidence that they're likely to be worth it. I like SS but the money I have invested there is less than 25% of my 12%+ money and (rightly or wrongly) it's the SS loans I feel least confident about.
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Post by Steerpike on Oct 16, 2016 10:12:26 GMT
Popular 12% destinations seem to be ABL, C, FS, MT, SS, a few use BC, LC and REBS, and there are some 12% opportunities at TC.
So for those that voted no to SS 11% loans, I wonder which platform would benefit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 10:53:51 GMT
I don't see it as granular as this. So I can't vote as it "depends".
So if they wanted to offer FITs supported solar farms at 9% I'd be happy.
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Post by Liz on Oct 16, 2016 11:34:00 GMT
I don't see it as granular as this. So I can't vote as it "depends". So if they wanted to offer FITs supported solar farms at 9% I'd be happy. That wasn't the question! It was more a gauge on whether members would be prepared to back the current quality of loans at 11%. The answer seems to be yes for a large enough proportion of members, so that SS will be able to list loans under £1m at 11% and they should fill(assuming no 12% loans available), but larger loans will need to still be listed at 12% to attract enough bids. Now, if we get mega SS loans, £10m+, then SS may need to offer 13% There is a case for another poll with a lot more options. I do hope that SS does branch out into areas like you suggest, it will do no harm to the long term viability of the platform and help members gain sector diversity in one place.
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Post by brokenbiscuits on Oct 16, 2016 12:06:29 GMT
If savingstream do what they say
"In order to increase the supply of high quality loans, we intend to begin offering investors the chance to invest in lower risk loans that will pay a lower monthly rate. This will allow us to offer lower cost finance to borrowers, which should feedback to a higher volume of even higher quality loan flow."
I'm happy to continue investing.
Unfortunately with other platforms i've seen rates drop and the quality drop or at best stay the same. This leaves a bad taste and leads to seeing how green the grass is else where.
I guess it depends how unified the different platforms are and if they all drop around the same time. Over a day or two last week all the major banks made announcements that they would all be dropping their high interest current account rates.
If savingstream drop to, say,10% but a similar quality loan is available on another site at 12%, savingstream will lose out.
No point second guessing at this time. The announcement is due tomorrow, so we should know by Wednesday or thereabouts what is happening!😂
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Post by oldgrumpy on Oct 16, 2016 12:08:08 GMT
Can a plethora of polls be considered as forum of pollution?
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jonno
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Post by jonno on Oct 16, 2016 12:11:15 GMT
I'm struggling with this vote too. Would I continue to invest in SOME loans at 11%, potentially yes; would I invest in ALL loans definitely NO. We've always known that the current 12% across the board is, in reality, an "average" of the risk base across the whole portfolio. I thought the recent move by SS was to more accurately reflect the individual quality of each loan with the result that some rates will go down and some will (should!) increase. I invest in loans on other platforms at less than 12% if I feel it's appropriate: why wouldn't I do it on SS?
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Post by jonno on Oct 16, 2016 12:16:36 GMT
Can a plethora of polls be considered as forum of pollution? Did you think of this during your brief sojourn around the environs of London Zoo?
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Post by ablender on Oct 16, 2016 12:19:49 GMT
I'm struggling with this vote too. Would I continue to invest in SOME loans at 11%, potentially yes; would I invest in ALL loans definitely NO. We've always known that the current 12% across the board is, in reality, an "average" of the risk base across the whole portfolio. I thought the recent move by SS was to more accurately reflect the individual quality of each loan with the result that some rates will go down and some will (should!) increase. I invest in loans on other platforms at less than 12% if I feel it's appropriate: why wouldn't I do it on SS? That is my impression too. What I understand by average is that if there are going to be some loans offered at less than 12%, there must be some others offered at more than 12%. Risks will follow, hopefully in a sensible way. Then it is up to lenders to vote with their money depending on how much they have and their appetite for risk + other factors that may be offered by SS for particular loans.
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Post by saraph on Oct 16, 2016 14:53:50 GMT
If I were to answer binary yes-no, it'd be yes. Real question is, would my asset allocation stay the same? I'd probably deposit more into Twino platform from that time on.
11 % is by no means a bad deal, but I hope we can have 12 % for a bit longer.
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Post by dan83 on Oct 16, 2016 16:57:21 GMT
What do you consider a better quality loan? Lower LTV?shorter term? Longer term?
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Post by jonah on Oct 16, 2016 18:40:52 GMT
What do you consider a better quality loan? Lower LTV?shorter term? Longer term? Term isn't too key for me. LTV is, especially against the right metric. Having a few less hiccups would be nice. Not expecting perfection, but less problems would be nice.
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Post by baldpate on Oct 16, 2016 20:02:03 GMT
I don't see it as granular as this. So I can't vote as it "depends". So if they wanted to offer FITs supported solar farms at 9% I'd be happy. That wasn't the question! It was more a gauge on whether members would be prepared to back the current quality of loans at 11%. The answer seems to be yes for a large enough proportion of members, so that SS will be able to list loans under £1m at 11% and they should fill(assuming no 12% loans available), but larger loans will need to still be listed at 12% to attract enough bids. Now, if we get mega SS loans, £10m+, then SS may need to offer 13% There is a case for another poll with a lot more options. I do hope that SS does branch out into areas like you suggest, it will do no harm to the long term viability of the platform and help members gain sector diversity in one place. On the basis of your clarification (emboldened above), I have voted No. To clarify, I would still invest, but much more selectively and probably in smaller amounts, leading to a net withdrawal of funds from the platform. As others have said, it would also depend upon what the competition was doing. I am constantly rebalancing my investments across a half-dozen platforms depending upon the relative value of their offerings.
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Post by nush on Oct 16, 2016 20:08:03 GMT
i voted yes but i want quality loans, if they stay at the level they are at now it would still be a yes for the loans that i am in but not for all of the loans
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