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Post by Richard Martin on May 3, 2014 16:20:41 GMT
The turbine has been ordered from the manufacturer and will be delivered in July. In the meantime the base will be constructed so that by the time the turbine arrives it will have achieved full strength. It then takes 7/10 days to erect and commission the turbine.
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on May 6, 2014 9:41:16 GMT
Can I ask if it was established that this loan (Scots Wind Turbine) was the last of the "three" to be listed and included in the April Cashback? As was discussed HERE and also HERE even tho' it might be outside of April. Hopefully a deputy of andrewholgate or chris can pin it down one way or the other. I'm sure that info will only help to fill this big loan up saving some underwriting. Thanks AC Any update on the above?
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on May 8, 2014 19:33:33 GMT
Can I ask if it was established that this loan (Scots Wind Turbine) was the last of the "three" to be listed and included in the April Cashback? As was discussed HERE and also HERE even tho' it might be outside of April. Hopefully a deputy of andrewholgate or chris can pin it down one way or the other. I'm sure that info will only help to fill this big loan up saving some underwriting. Thanks AC Any update on the above? The man from Delmonte says, "YES!" Sorry, what I mean is the man from AC said on the 8th that this loan is indeed included in the April Birthday Cash-Back offer. Check out the Q&A.
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Post by pikestaff on May 8, 2014 23:30:27 GMT
The turbine has been ordered from the manufacturer and will be delivered in July. In the meantime the base will be constructed so that by the time the turbine arrives it will have achieved full strength. It then takes 7/10 days to erect and commission the turbine. Richard, over on TC you have just posted in relation to an earlier wind farm deal that commissioning is delayed: "All the preparatory works – foundations, access road and grid enabling – have been completed satisfactorily. There has been a delay in the turbine delivery caused by high demand. Currently the quoted date is August..."I'm not sure when that one was originally scheduled to be delivered, but are delays of this kind a general issue? The risk is two-fold: (1) that the start of electricity/cash generation is delayed, reducing the headroom on the project, and (2) that, in the event of a long delay, the deadline for the pre-approved FIT is not met, with a dramatic reduction in income. What can you tell us that would assist us in evaluating the risk on the present proposal, and on other wind farm proposals that you may be bringing forward?
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Post by Richard Martin on May 9, 2014 6:13:28 GMT
At the moment the demand for some types of turbine - the best ones - exceeds supply. This leads to the sort of delays that have been experienced recently. Although this may defer the commissioning date and hence the commencement of the income stream, all these loans are structured so as to require the payment of interest from draw down irrespective of whether or not the turbine has been commissioned. Another common factor is that the borrower has significant equity in the project and would not risk default by failing to pay interim interest. Although these loans are made to SPV's the shareholders are substantial companies.
Currently the pre accreditation cut off date for the majority of these projects is December 2014, which allows plenty of time to achieve commissioning before the cut off.
There are signs that some turbine manufacturers are gearing up to increase supply.
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on May 9, 2014 16:48:23 GMT
At the moment the demand for some types of turbine - the best ones - exceeds supply. This leads to the sort of delays that have been experienced recently. Although this may defer the commissioning date and hence the commencement of the income stream, all these loans are structured so as to require the payment of interest from draw down irrespective of whether or not the turbine has been commissioned. Another common factor is that the borrower has significant equity in the project and would not risk default by failing to pay interim interest. Although these loans are made to SPV's the shareholders are substantial companies. Currently the pre accreditation cut off date for the majority of these projects is December 2014, which allows plenty of time to achieve commissioning before the cut off. There are signs that some turbine manufacturers are gearing up to increase supply. Thanks for the quick and full answers. It really helps to build confidence in our part of financing the industry. So am I right in thinking that delay on turbine delivery tends to be about a month or so? What makes the 'best' ones the best ones? Is it simply size or perhaps the maker? Thanks very much for your answers Richard Martin
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Post by j on May 14, 2014 16:20:04 GMT
Am I dreaming or has this loan been extended by a few hours more?!
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Post by baz657 on May 14, 2014 18:24:21 GMT
No dream j. It was at 19 hours earlier and over 21 hours as I type this.
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Post by mikeb on May 15, 2014 17:24:43 GMT
No dream j. It was at 19 hours earlier and over 21 hours as I type this. Well mine says "-2 hours / -23 mins" .... ummm ? Refreshed and its now 23h 36m, so another extension, and a web display bug somewhere too
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Post by j on May 15, 2014 18:46:57 GMT
No dream j. It was at 19 hours earlier and over 21 hours as I type this. Well mine says "-2 hours / -23 mins" .... ummm ? Refreshed and its now 23h 36m, so another extension, and a web display bug somewhere too This one seems to have a source of energy that renews (pardon the pun) itself every day! Two extensions in 2 days so far. Will it be third time lucky tomorrow too?
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on May 15, 2014 20:10:36 GMT
Well mine says "-2 hours / -23 mins" .... ummm ? Refreshed and its now 23h 36m, so another extension, and a web display bug somewhere too This one seems to have a source of energy that renews (pardon the pun) itself every day! Two extensions in 2 days so far. Will it be third time lucky tomorrow too? It's getting us used to whats going to happen when the auction closes...
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Post by mikes1531 on Jul 14, 2014 22:02:41 GMT
The first payment was due on this loan was due 13/Jul, and wasn't posted today -- presuming it's unlikely to be posted after 2300 -- making these units ineligible for sale on the Aftermarket. The Credit Report doesn't make it clear whether the money was supposed to come from the borrower or whether it was 'retained' from the beginning. Since this effectively is a development loan, I'd expect the latter, especially as the loan is supposed to be advanced to the borrower as the work progresses rather than all at the beginning, and it seems unlikely that it all would have been advanced in the first month. But if it's supposed to come from the borrower and wasn't received, does AC have the power to take it from the undistributed principal? Perhaps andrewholgate, or someone else from AC, could let us know whether there's a potential problem developing here or whether it's simply the result of AC being a bit behind in crediting the payment to the loan.
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Post by kermie on Jul 15, 2014 18:31:16 GMT
late interest payment received and now credited; situation appears to be rectified.
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Post by mikes1531 on Jul 15, 2014 19:37:02 GMT
late interest payment received and now credited; situation appears to be rectified. Yes, and lots of units have appeared in the Aftermarket. So many, actually, that I wonder what's going one, inasmuch as the loan's horseshoe chart indicates that underwriters hold only £154k of this loan. So who is offering the other £627k of loan units that are up for sale at the moment? Is this just the result of this loan being -- AIUI -- the last loan that qualified for the April cashback deal, so that lenders threw all their available cash at it in order to earn the cashback and now want to move that cash elsewhere? Or are there investors who have been acting like underwriters -- taking large positions in new loans with the intention of getting out as soon as possible -- but are not officially designated as such? If the latter, and it's being done without an interaction with AC, then that's fair enough. But if AC are involved and these people are effectively underwriters without the title, then I feel like I'm being misled by the horseshoe charts. I use those to try to assess the likelihood of being able to sell loan units on the Aftermarket -- if there are no shares held by underwriters, then it ought to be easier to sell units in those loans if I should feel the need to do so. PS. This isn't the only loan showing this behaviour. Staf********* P******* has over half of its units for sale in the Aftermarket yet shows to be only 27% held by underwriters.
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Post by tonyr on Jul 16, 2014 8:55:49 GMT
PS. This isn't the only loan showing this behaviour. Staf********* P******* has over half of its units for sale in the Aftermarket yet shows to be only 27% held by underwriters. I can help explain what happened to Staf* P* - I took out a big chunk of the underwriting with cash have been slowly selling on. So the underwriting horseshoe would have suddenly jumped a few weeks ago and then moved much more slowly since.
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