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Post by teddy on Oct 30, 2016 21:57:22 GMT
Given that I've significantly increased my GBBA balance during October, I've decided that I'll give it until mid November. If I've not received interest payments in line with what I should be getting, then I'll be on the phone. teddy : Please come back to us after mid-Nov and let us know how you get on. You might have to give me a nudge. Now the clocks have gone back, I'm officially in winter hibernation
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Post by teddy on Nov 4, 2016 20:27:18 GMT
£1.81 in interest payments across the first 4 days of November. It's not looking good. I'll be phoning up on Monday morning.
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Post by investibod on Nov 5, 2016 12:38:50 GMT
£1.81 in interest payments across the first 4 days of November. It's not looking good. I'll be phoning up on Monday morning. You really need to give it a full month before you can have a real understanding about what interest you are getting. So if you finished investing on say 20 October, you need to wait until 20 November before you know what interest you will be getting over a month. The nature of these investment is that they will be be lumpy and will not pay equally on each day. The amount that you get from the GBBA on each day depends on which of the underlying loans are due to pay interest on that day. If by chance the majority of you investments went into loans which all paid around the middle of the month, you would not be seeing much interest for the rest of the month.
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Post by Neil_P2PBlog on Nov 5, 2016 12:49:46 GMT
I put £2k in GBBA in mid July (queued from QAA at 3.75%). I've had 5.2% annualised to 1st November, about what I expected given it took some time to allocate to the 7% GBBA. I didn't realise there was further accrued interest that does not show in the GBBA, a pleasant surprise!
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Post by mikes1531 on Nov 7, 2016 16:05:16 GMT
You really need to give it a full month before you can have a real understanding about what interest you are getting. So if you finished investing on say 20 October, you need to wait until 20 November before you know what interest you will be getting over a month. The nature of these investment is that they will be be lumpy and will not pay equally on each day. The amount that you get from the GBBA on each day depends on which of the underlying loans are due to pay interest on that day. If by chance the majority of you investments went into loans which all paid around the middle of the month, you would not be seeing much interest for the rest of the month. investibod: I think that in your example you'll find you'd have to wait longer than 20/Nov. If the payment date of a loan is the 21st of the month, then the interest received on 21/Oct for an investment made on 20/Oct would be only one day's worth. So you're really need to look at the interest received between 20/Nov and 20/Dec. Also, what about development loans that pay interest upon maturity rather than monthly? Are those eligible to be included in the GBBA? If so, the monthly interest received won't produce an accurate AER.
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Post by investibod on Nov 7, 2016 16:50:29 GMT
You really need to give it a full month before you can have a real understanding about what interest you are getting. So if you finished investing on say 20 October, you need to wait until 20 November before you know what interest you will be getting over a month. The nature of these investment is that they will be be lumpy and will not pay equally on each day. The amount that you get from the GBBA on each day depends on which of the underlying loans are due to pay interest on that day. If by chance the majority of you investments went into loans which all paid around the middle of the month, you would not be seeing much interest for the rest of the month. investibod : I think that in your example you'll find you'd have to wait longer than 20/Nov. If the payment date of a loan is the 21st of the month, then the interest received on 21/Oct for an investment made on 20/Oct would be only one day's worth. So you're really need to look at the interest received between 20/Nov and 20/Dec. Also, what about development loans that pay interest upon maturity rather than monthly? Are those eligible to be included in the GBBA? If so, the monthly interest received won't produce an accurate AER. mikes1531 It is making my brain ache thinking about it, but I believe that you are right. It would seem that the only way to know exactly how much interest you have earned is to take all of your money out and wait until you die However, the period from (1 month + 1 day) to (2 months) since your last investment/withdrawal should give a good first approximation.
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Post by mikes1531 on Nov 7, 2016 17:30:09 GMT
It would seem that the only way to know exactly how much interest you have earned is to take all of your money out and wait until you die If you want to know how much interest you've earned, it's the difference between your account balance and the amount of money you've transferred into the account (net of any withdrawals). If you want to know what rate of interest you've been earning, that's a lot harder to work out. But it can be done with a downloaded transaction statement and Excel's XIRR function.
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Post by teddy on Nov 27, 2016 0:11:45 GMT
Have so far had £15 interest this month. Am expecting £30. Personally, with 3 working days of November left, I don't see it happening. Am due about another £5 interest for loans taken out between 24/10-31/10.
Very disappointed so far.
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Post by teddy on Jan 12, 2017 21:29:12 GMT
A quick update while I'm having a few minutes wakey wakey time from hibernation.
My current yearly interest rate of the GBBA is 6%. This is based on interest received from 1st Nov to 12th Jan 2017 ie today. I've not put anymore cash in the GBBA, although that's not for want of trying. . . .Gave up today and stuck it all in the 30 day after having it hanging around for the last 2 weeks and not being able to shift a penny.
While 6% isn't 7%, I'll take it in the current climate.
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Post by mikes1531 on Jan 12, 2017 23:14:15 GMT
A quick update while I'm having a few minutes wakey wakey time from hibernation. My current yearly interest rate of the GBBA is 6%. This is based on interest received from 1st Nov to 12th Jan 2017 ie today. I've not put anymore cash in the GBBA, although that's not for want of trying. . . .Gave up today and stuck it all in the 30 day after having it hanging around for the last 2 weeks and not being able to shift a penny. While 6% isn't 7%, I'll take it in the current climate. I wonder if some of teddy's GBBA investment might be in loans that don't pay interest monthly, and that could explain the apparent 6% vs. 7% shortfall? Or are those sort of loans not GBBA-eligible? Or perhaps his interest payments are unevenly distributed and more fall in the latter mart of the month, such that he won't have received 2.4 months' worth of interest in the 2.4 month period he's used. There's also the fact that he wasn't fully invested until some time in October, so he could have received less than a month's worth of interest on some of the payments received in November.
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Post by bobthebuilder on Jan 16, 2017 4:35:41 GMT
I doubt whether loans that don’t pay interest monthly are GBBA-eligible. I’ve acquired parts of more than 30 loans in my GBBA account in less than three months, and every one of them is scheduled to make interest payments monthly (and all but one has).
It’s possibly worth pointing out that the return advertised for the GBBA is a 7% annualised rate, and with interest being paid monthly that equates to a monthly interest rate of 6.79%, not 7%.
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Post by amphoria on Jan 16, 2017 9:41:35 GMT
I doubt whether loans that don’t pay interest monthly are GBBA-eligible. I’ve acquired parts of more than 30 loans in my GBBA account in less than three months, and every one of them is scheduled to make interest payments monthly (and all but one has). Unfortunately this isn't the case as I have #174 in my GBBA which is supposed to pay bullet interest.
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Post by happy on Jan 16, 2017 10:59:08 GMT
I doubt whether loans that don’t pay interest monthly are GBBA-eligible. I’ve acquired parts of more than 30 loans in my GBBA account in less than three months, and every one of them is scheduled to make interest payments monthly (and all but one has). Unfortunately this isn't the case as I have #174 in my GBBA which is supposed to pay bullet interest. #174 did pay monthly interest but is now in default hence why no monthly interest is currently being paid. Accumulating interest may be paid on sale of the asset from sale proceeds or possibly from the PF.
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Post by mikes1531 on Jan 16, 2017 17:56:28 GMT
Unfortunately this isn't the case as I have #174 in my GBBA which is supposed to pay bullet interest. #174 did pay monthly interest but is now in default hence why no monthly interest is currently being paid. Accumulating interest may be paid on sale of the asset from sale proceeds or possibly from the PF. happy: You must be thinking about a different loan. The Repayments tab for #174 shows that there never have been any interest payments on this loan, which drew down on 16 Sep 2015.
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Post by happy on Jan 16, 2017 21:13:01 GMT
Apologies, you are absolutely correct, Interest was rolled up until maturity for this loan, I am obviously more in need of an early night than I thought , that's me yawning
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