blender
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Post by blender on Aug 21, 2014 17:00:27 GMT
With 1hr 18m left and top rate 12%, my bet is to get some of this ..... 10.9 Well done CC. In at 10.9 (just) and 10.8. Bidding seems OK on website. What's all the fuss?
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Post by captainconfident on Aug 21, 2014 17:05:17 GMT
I shall change my name to Captain Clairvoyant.
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Post by baz657 on Aug 21, 2014 17:06:47 GMT
Bidding seems OK on website. What's all the fuss? It is now. Not sure if it's because they've reverted back to Ol' Faithful and given up (again) on the new look. I even managed to keep up and get a bit in @ 10.9%, although it was touch and go with all the delayed bid flashes for ages after the "official" close.
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Post by baz657 on Aug 21, 2014 17:08:58 GMT
I shall change my name to Captain Clairvoyant. Beware of men with crystal balls. They tend to have glass babies.
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Post by blender on Aug 21, 2014 17:35:40 GMT
I shall change my name to Captain Clairvoyant. I shall just call you Clair.
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Post by captainconfident on Aug 21, 2014 18:41:28 GMT
I predict that will cause some raised eyebrows if we meet up down the pub. But back at p2p world, I did load up the bids at 10.9% and went off and had supper, so I am quite chuffed. I did backstop some 10.8s though. The tea leaves were slightly disordered on that point.
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Post by markr on Aug 21, 2014 20:55:29 GMT
I had the courage of my convictions and bid 11, so I'm out. Meh.
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Post by mikeb on Aug 28, 2014 17:30:53 GMT
"That Website Again" ...
Auction 7489: Did anyone else see any weirdness at the end of auction? I had a 12.4% bid knocked out, and was refused ability to rebid at 12.1% (even though 12.1% was still available AND would have been "in") on the grounds that "Sorry, you bid cannot be placed, reduce your bids and try again". Was bidding £20, can't reduce that. Had £83 in holding account, so it wasn't "stuck money" not being returned ... Refresh page. Try again, still no good. And then it's all over. Any reason why FC are rejecting perfectly good bids? Borrowers, you are being done over again! Auction 7498: This was even worse. Not due to "busy auction", this was going wrong during slack bidding time. About 15:30, with over an hour to run, my bid looked like this :- 14.0% £4,422 Rejected 14.0% £5,166 Live 93 bids £3,086 Your 1 bid £20 38 bids £2,060 And over the next 10 mins, £1500 was put in at 13.7-13.9% with NO movement in the 14.0% band. Not possible. Yet again, FC are not removing "failed" bids, locking people into bids that are doomed to fail later, and misrepresenting the auction. Refresh. Refresh. This persisted from at least 15:30, when I noticed it, to within 2 minutes of auction end, when it all went mental, displayed rubbish data, and finally cleared as if nothing was wrong. Compare ... 15:58 14.0% £4,422 Rejected 14.0% £5,166 Live 93 bids £3,086 Your 1 bid £20 38 bids £2,060 13.9% £7,860 Live 13.8% £8,240 Live 13.7% £7,600 Live To ... 16:30 14.0% £4,422 Rejected 14.0% £5,166 Live 93 bids £3,086 Your 1 bid £20 38 bids £2,060 13.9% £8,400 Live 13.8% £9,840 Live 13.7% £9,280 Live That's an extra £3820 in three bands alone, (plus the £1500 I saw by eye earlier) and I'm still not pushed out?? Really?? 16:32 (nonsense figures shown, clearly the constipated server has been kicked) 13.8% £3,434 rejected <--- probably true 14.0% £5,166 Live <--- can't be true 93 bids £3,086 Your 1 bid £20 38 bids £2,060 13.9% £16,100 Live <--- not possible 13.8% £7,266 Live <-- probably true 13.7% £10,060 Live <-- true? Then with almost no time to spare, all the junk data caught up and masses of bids vanished. Almost as if there was never anything wrong (which is probably the official line). I know this has been reported before, but it's been going on for months. The fundamental accounting on the auction process is shot to bits. I suppose this is another of those where the total bid far far exceeded the amount needed by the borrower. I wonder when Funding Circle are going to apply for their Gambling Licence, for running this lottery that they call an "auction"
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Aug 28, 2014 17:48:42 GMT
Just so happens my log-a-bot was running through that period, so I can confirm the screwups .. here's what it saw! (anything under £1k is ignored as "acceptable error" .. it isn't acceptable, but the log file is limited to just a few GB!). I assume it's self evident what this says - the 'live' bids exceeded the loan size by the amount it is bitching about. Usually you might get one or two at the end of a busy auction - during this period it was well broken. 8<. And no, it was mosly not bidding (rates uninteresting in most cases), but it likes to gawp anyway. 8>.
28/08/2014 14:41 Loan:7517 Excess bids of £1240 corrected 28/08/2014 14:41 Loan:7491 Excess bids of £2060 corrected 28/08/2014 14:42 Loan:7491 Excess bids of £2180 corrected 28/08/2014 14:42 Loan:7491 Excess bids of £2280 corrected 28/08/2014 14:42 Loan:7491 Excess bids of £2440 corrected 28/08/2014 14:44 Loan:7491 Excess bids of £2440 corrected 28/08/2014 14:45 Loan:7491 Excess bids of £2440 corrected 28/08/2014 14:46 Loan:7491 Excess bids of £2440 corrected 28/08/2014 14:47 Loan:7551 Excess bids of £2040 corrected 28/08/2014 14:48 Loan:7551 Excess bids of £2040 corrected 28/08/2014 14:48 Loan:7491 Excess bids of £2440 corrected 28/08/2014 14:48 Loan:7498 Excess bids of £1540 corrected 28/08/2014 14:50 Loan:7551 Excess bids of £2040 corrected 28/08/2014 14:50 Loan:7498 Excess bids of £1620 corrected 28/08/2014 14:50 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £2120 corrected 28/08/2014 14:50 Loan:7517 Excess bids of £1280 corrected 28/08/2014 14:50 Loan:7551 Excess bids of £2040 corrected 28/08/2014 14:51 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £2120 corrected 28/08/2014 14:51 Loan:7491 Excess bids of £2440 corrected 28/08/2014 14:51 Loan:7551 Excess bids of £2040 corrected 28/08/2014 14:52 Loan:7498 Excess bids of £1660 corrected 28/08/2014 14:52 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £2120 corrected 28/08/2014 14:52 Loan:7551 Excess bids of £2120 corrected 28/08/2014 14:55 Loan:7491 Excess bids of £3460 corrected 28/08/2014 14:55 Loan:7498 Excess bids of £1840 corrected 28/08/2014 14:56 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £2120 corrected 28/08/2014 14:56 Loan:7551 Excess bids of £1340 corrected 28/08/2014 14:56 Loan:7555 Excess bids of £1160 corrected 28/08/2014 14:57 Loan:7551 Excess bids of £1780 corrected 28/08/2014 14:59 Loan:7551 Excess bids of £1780 corrected 28/08/2014 14:59 Loan:7498 Excess bids of £2380 corrected 28/08/2014 14:59 Loan:7491 Excess bids of £5420 corrected 28/08/2014 14:59 Loan:7498 Excess bids of £2400 corrected 28/08/2014 15:00 Loan:7498 Excess bids of £2900 corrected 28/08/2014 15:00 Loan:7532 Excess bids of £1800 corrected 28/08/2014 15:01 Loan:7498 Excess bids of £2960 corrected 28/08/2014 15:01 Loan:7532 Excess bids of £2760 corrected 28/08/2014 15:02 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £2120 corrected 28/08/2014 15:03 Loan:7548 Excess bids of £2040 corrected 28/08/2014 15:07 Loan:7532 Excess bids of £2980 corrected 28/08/2014 15:08 Loan:7532 Excess bids of £3240 corrected 28/08/2014 15:10 Loan:7517 Excess bids of £2640 corrected 28/08/2014 15:11 Loan:7532 Excess bids of £3800 corrected 28/08/2014 15:14 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £2260 corrected 28/08/2014 15:14 Loan:7505 Excess bids of £1240 corrected 28/08/2014 15:15 Loan:7505 Excess bids of £1240 corrected 28/08/2014 15:16 Loan:7505 Excess bids of £1340 corrected 28/08/2014 15:16 Loan:7505 Excess bids of £1340 corrected 28/08/2014 15:17 Loan:7505 Excess bids of £1380 corrected 28/08/2014 15:17 Loan:7532 Excess bids of £3800 corrected 28/08/2014 15:18 Loan:7505 Excess bids of £1560 corrected 28/08/2014 15:18 Loan:7548 Excess bids of £1340 corrected 28/08/2014 15:18 Loan:7505 Excess bids of £1560 corrected 28/08/2014 15:19 Loan:7505 Excess bids of £1580 corrected 28/08/2014 15:20 Loan:7505 Excess bids of £1640 corrected 28/08/2014 15:20 Loan:7548 Excess bids of £1340 corrected 28/08/2014 15:20 Loan:7505 Excess bids of £1640 corrected 28/08/2014 15:21 Loan:7505 Excess bids of £1660 corrected 28/08/2014 15:22 Loan:7498 Excess bids of £1360 corrected 28/08/2014 15:24 Loan:7491 Excess bids of £6540 corrected 28/08/2014 15:30 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £2540 corrected 28/08/2014 15:30 Loan:7528 Excess bids of £2320 corrected 28/08/2014 15:31 Loan:7532 Excess bids of £4080 corrected 28/08/2014 15:34 Loan:7486 Excess bids of £1160 corrected 28/08/2014 15:35 Loan:7530 Excess bids of £2620 corrected 28/08/2014 15:35 Loan:7498 Excess bids of £9400 corrected 28/08/2014 15:35 Loan:7498 Excess bids of £9420 corrected 28/08/2014 15:38 Loan:7486 Excess bids of £1200 corrected 28/08/2014 15:42 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3100 corrected 28/08/2014 15:43 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £1420 corrected 28/08/2014 15:43 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £1460 corrected 28/08/2014 15:44 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £1520 corrected 28/08/2014 15:44 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £1580 corrected 28/08/2014 15:44 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £1640 corrected 28/08/2014 15:44 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £1700 corrected 28/08/2014 15:45 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3120 corrected 28/08/2014 15:45 Loan:7486 Excess bids of £1220 corrected 28/08/2014 15:47 Loan:7530 Excess bids of £2640 corrected 28/08/2014 15:48 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £1740 corrected 28/08/2014 15:49 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £1760 corrected 28/08/2014 15:49 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £1820 corrected 28/08/2014 15:49 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £1880 corrected 28/08/2014 15:49 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £2020 corrected 28/08/2014 15:50 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £2080 corrected 28/08/2014 15:51 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £2020 corrected 28/08/2014 15:51 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £2140 corrected 28/08/2014 15:51 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £2020 corrected 28/08/2014 15:52 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £2200 corrected 28/08/2014 15:52 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £2100 corrected 28/08/2014 15:53 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £2260 corrected 28/08/2014 15:53 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £2320 corrected 28/08/2014 15:53 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £2100 corrected 28/08/2014 15:54 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £2380 corrected 28/08/2014 15:54 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £2100 corrected 28/08/2014 15:55 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £2100 corrected 28/08/2014 15:59 Loan:7532 Excess bids of £4300 corrected 28/08/2014 16:00 Loan:7490 Excess bids of £1340 corrected 28/08/2014 16:03 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £2380 corrected 28/08/2014 16:05 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:06 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:06 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:07 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:08 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:09 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:09 Loan:7530 Excess bids of £2640 corrected 28/08/2014 16:09 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:10 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:11 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:11 Loan:7490 Excess bids of £2040 corrected 28/08/2014 16:12 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:12 Loan:7491 Excess bids of £13340 corrected 28/08/2014 16:13 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:14 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:14 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:15 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:16 Loan:7490 Excess bids of £2040 corrected 28/08/2014 16:16 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:17 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:18 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:18 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:19 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:20 Loan:7528 Excess bids of £2440 corrected 28/08/2014 16:20 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:21 Loan:7546 Excess bids of £2380 corrected 28/08/2014 16:21 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:22 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:23 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:24 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:25 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:26 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:27 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:29 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:30 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:31 Loan:7529 Excess bids of £3180 corrected 28/08/2014 16:35 Loan:7498 Excess bids of £7854 corrected
As you said, 7529 got stuck with £3180 in that should not have been (unless it forgot what size the auction was?!)
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Post by mikeb on Aug 29, 2014 17:59:27 GMT
Right, nice catch -- so not just one auction but loads of them!
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Post by longjohn on Sept 1, 2014 19:35:18 GMT
"That Website Again" ... Auction 7498: This was even worse. Not due to "busy auction", this was going wrong during slack bidding time. About 15:30, with over an hour to run, my bid looked like this :- 14.0% £4,422 Rejected 14.0% £5,166 Live 93 bids £3,086 Your 1 bid £20 38 bids £2,060 And over the next 10 mins, £1500 was put in at 13.7-13.9% with NO movement in the 14.0% band. Not possible. Yet again, FC are not removing "failed" bids, locking people into bids that are doomed to fail later, and misrepresenting the auction. Refresh. Refresh. This persisted from at least 15:30, when I noticed it, to within 2 minutes of auction end, when it all went mental, displayed rubbish data, and finally cleared as if nothing was wrong. Compare ... 15:58 14.0% £4,422 Rejected 14.0% £5,166 Live 93 bids £3,086 Your 1 bid £20 38 bids £2,060 13.9% £7,860 Live 13.8% £8,240 Live 13.7% £7,600 Live To ... 16:30 14.0% £4,422 Rejected 14.0% £5,166 Live 93 bids £3,086 Your 1 bid £20 38 bids £2,060 13.9% £8,400 Live 13.8% £9,840 Live 13.7% £9,280 Live That's an extra £3820 in three bands alone, (plus the £1500 I saw by eye earlier) and I'm still not pushed out?? Really?? 16:32 (nonsense figures shown, clearly the constipated server has been kicked) 13.8% £3,434 rejected <--- probably true 14.0% £5,166 Live <--- can't be true 93 bids £3,086 Your 1 bid £20 38 bids £2,060 13.9% £16,100 Live <--- not possible 13.8% £7,266 Live <-- probably true 13.7% £10,060 Live <-- true? Then with almost no time to spare, all the junk data caught up and masses of bids vanished. Almost as if there was never anything wrong (which is probably the official line). I know this has been reported before, but it's been going on for months. The fundamental accounting on the auction process is shot to bits. I suppose this is another of those where the total bid far far exceeded the amount needed by the borrower. I wonder when Funding Circle are going to apply for their Gambling Licence, for running this lottery that they call an "auction" mikebAuction 7498. Your 15:30 screen was ok but after that everything was false. What you didn't see was that, at the same time, the tall one (not me despite the name) banged in a huge number of £960 bids at 13.4% (just out of sight on the bid screen) instantly knocking out everyone above that rate. As a worst case scenario if we assume all the other bidders were bidding £20 then for each (single) £960 bid the server has to update 48 accounts and publish the results which it could not do in time. Now with everyone's screen still showing 14% people continued to bid at 13.9, 13.8, 13.7 which were all rejected. Naturally this clogged up the server even more causing havoc on this auction. People with loadsamoney can game the system. I've been caught out on other auctions and am now watching carefully at the end of each loan I have bid on. John
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Sept 1, 2014 20:19:29 GMT
Yes, but that doesn't explain the documented (see my long post) screw ups on lots of other auctions, some of which started well before 15:30. The tall-one spike (~10k) at 15:35 on that one auction shows up, but so does plenty of other garbage.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Sept 12, 2014 15:29:32 GMT
Problems again this PM .. I dunno what was happening at FC ( I certainly wasn't bidding on anything) but all of a sudden it was impossible to get to several loan pages .. eg
12/09/2014 16:00 Loan:7804 Has just vanished
12/09/2014 16:00 Loan:7800 Has just vanished
12/09/2014 16:00 Loan:7802 Has just vanished
12/09/2014 16:00 Loan:7803 Has just vanished
12/09/2014 16:01 Loan:7774 Has just vanished
I was logging the HTTP responses at the time, and these all came back with a 404 error (page not found). A Minute later the server changed its mind and there they were again... I guess it must just have overloaded?!
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Post by mikeb on Sept 12, 2014 17:28:04 GMT
I was logging the HTTP responses at the time, and these all came back with a 404 error (page not found). A Minute later the server changed its mind and there they were again... I guess it must just have overloaded?! The "loan parts sold" page has been doing that too, since the "upgrade", you switch to the "Sold" tab and get an embedded 404 page instead. Flick away and back, it returns.
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Post by yorkshireman on Nov 7, 2014 15:57:17 GMT
Has anyone else had problems with the FC website this afternoon? I’m finding it almost impossibly slow and generously interspersed with “bad gateways” and 404’s.
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