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Post by buttchopf23 on Dec 8, 2016 19:26:25 GMT
Personally I like variety so I am all for it, I am guessing the interest will be paid upon completion rather then monthly. Correct
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Post by littleoldlady on Dec 9, 2016 19:37:11 GMT
IMO the flaw with this product is the very high acquisition and disposal costs, which seem likely to exceed the amount of the discount, unless for some reason these costs are much lower for BTS than they have been so far for BTL.
Edit: continued in next post
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Post by littleoldlady on Dec 12, 2016 14:07:54 GMT
For example consider the costs involved in SPV2:
Property Price: £55,000.00
Other Costs: £14,120.00
Sale Expenses: £2,988.10* Sale price required to break even £72,108 Capital gain required to break even £17,108
Is this sort of gain really feasible within 6 months?
* This figure is dependent to an extent on the sale price so may be a bit lower.
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Post by pom on Dec 12, 2016 14:18:30 GMT
For example consider the costs involved in SPV2: Property Price: £55,000.00 Other Costs: £14,120.00 Sale Expenses: £2,988.10* Sale price required to break even £72,108 Capital gain required to break even £17,108 Is this sort of gain really feasible within 6 months? * This figure is dependent to an extent on the sale price so may be a bit lower. Probably depends on how much of a discount they bought it for really, I don't know the history of that one but it does seem like the renovation costs were sufficiently high that it would never have made a good flip anyway.
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Post by j on Feb 23, 2017 19:11:30 GMT
Another buy to sell gone in a very short space of time!! Why do PM not put a reasnable limit for the first, say 24 hours, to allow all a level playing field? Not all of us are glued to email or the website 24/7.
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Post by Neil_P2PBlog on Feb 23, 2017 19:13:31 GMT
I missed it too, was gone in under an hour. But margins looked a little tight on this one so was not too unhappy. The loan is still there and has similar projected returns with less risk (IMO).
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Post by sayyestocress on Feb 24, 2017 8:44:08 GMT
Managed to get in this one, unlike the first! The benefits of having a desk job with internet and an e-mail phone app that notifies me when e-mails come in I guess. I was disappointed to not get in the first BTS, this one has less margin to be made but all the work is done and it's on the market already, so should have a quicker turn around to (hopefully) get some quick capital gain. I guess we won't know whether there is money to be made on the equity side of the offering until one of these sell, or whether all PM's fees eat all the profit away.
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Post by Steerpike on Feb 24, 2017 15:26:32 GMT
The pictures of the actual house (rather than the ones originally published) are much less attractive, there is no garage and the garden has a frightening slope in to the corner.
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Post by ben on Mar 1, 2017 17:03:51 GMT
One going live at 11.30 tommorow although no information in the email about it.
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Post by Neil_P2PBlog on Mar 2, 2017 12:04:12 GMT
This preannounced one (SPV 77) probably went in about 5 minutes, so not much time to inspect the numbers if you wanted to buy...
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Post by pom on Mar 2, 2017 12:18:07 GMT
This preannounced one (SPV 77) probably went in about 5 minutes, so not much time to inspect the numbers if you wanted to buy... Look at it this way, by pre-announcing it they now have much more accurate view of the real demand with which to progress... The loan spv is still open. The returns seem to be split inequitably between the loan and the equity. As is the risk
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Post by ilmoro on Mar 2, 2017 12:19:53 GMT
Forgot about it and all gone when I logged in 7 min late. That said Im afraid I dont really get this one. The predicated annualised return is less than 7% according to the email (cant see actual listing) whereas the loan pays 7% (email says 9% buts its a typo) so certainly looks like people were investing blind or are optimistic of achieving a much better uplift in value (not sure in the short term with Article 50 uncertainty its a risk Id take) So I'll take the guarenteed 7% return. What have I missed? Edit: silly me assumed putting the SM into newest first order would show this one in the first line, having read it now I see that the email was a load of nonsense and the figures do actually make sense for the equity investment. Oh well, time for a memory upgrade
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Post by djpix99 on Mar 2, 2017 12:29:10 GMT
At the top it says 13.88% return, however when reading further down it doesn't mention this figure. I'm lost?
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Post by littonowl on Mar 2, 2017 12:29:46 GMT
I've only just seen this, so not really had chance to fully digest, but to me the margins for error are pretty tight, once you've factored in all the costs, and relies heavily on the accuracy of the estimated sales price? A sale price of £136K instead of the estimated £138,700 and all the profit is wiped out, if I'm reading things correctly?! I guess ultimately its a case of seeing how good PM are at securing that sale price...?!
To me the loan portion would be the safer deal, 3.5% over 6 months, but even then, you can find much better rates for loans secured against property on similar LTV's, elsewhere...?
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Post by Neil_P2PBlog on Mar 2, 2017 12:32:34 GMT
The 13.88% is from the financial breakdown, Net Return on Equity Invested
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