cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Dec 20, 2016 15:50:33 GMT
LIVE LOAN
Loan Amount | : | £ | 682,500
| Security Value | : | £ | 1,365,000
| SS Indicated LTV | : |
| 50% | 90 Day Market Valuation | : | £ | 1,200,000
| LTV Based on 90 day Market Valuation | : |
| 57% | Term | : |
| 365 days | % PA
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| 9% |
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ozboy
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Post by ozboy on Jan 27, 2017 20:15:55 GMT
Just checked SS details on this one and the 90 Day Valuation has now dropped £300K (!?) to £1.2M.
Land is also in a flood risk area with Above Average Risk thereof.
Today 27/1/17 from SS:-
The Borrower has extended their contractual completion deadline to 31 January to allow for continuing legal due diligence. Our solicitors are working closely with the Borrower’s solicitor with a view to enable completion to take place. The Borrower has not been the quickest to move on this transaction which has led to delays on all sides but we have made it very clear that the loan needs to be drawn down as soon as possible or the offer of finance will be withdrawn.
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Jan 27, 2017 20:23:12 GMT
Just checked SS details on this one and the 90 Day Valuation has now dropped £300K (!?) to £1.2M. Land is also in a flood risk area with Above Average Risk thereof. Today 27/1/17 from SS:- The Borrower has extended their contractual completion deadline to 31 January to allow for continuing legal due diligence. Our solicitors are working closely with the Borrower’s solicitor with a view to enable completion to take place. The Borrower has not been the quickest to move on this transaction which has led to delays on all sides but we have made it very clear that the loan needs to be drawn down as soon as possible or the offer of finance will be withdrawn Valuation has also dropped (1,800,000 > 1,365,000) along with the loan to keep it at 38%
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ozboy
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Post by ozboy on Jan 27, 2017 20:28:28 GMT
So The Valuation was pants in the first place?
Now, where have I seen that before, let me see ............................................
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Jan 27, 2017 20:33:30 GMT
So The Valuation was pants in the first place? Now, where have I seen that before, let me see ............................................ At least SS got an updated VR this time! I haven't had a look at the new one yet, but the fact that SS didn't rely on the old VR and got a new one is a good sign they are carrying out some basic DD Edit : That VR has been there a while, so it may be that I just never updated my OP after the initial pipeline appeared
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ozboy
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Post by ozboy on Jan 27, 2017 20:36:33 GMT
Quiet Friday night in counting yer money eh Dude? Just like me! Maybe SS are turning over a new leaf ..................................
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Post by am on Jan 27, 2017 21:32:54 GMT
Just checked SS details on this one and the 90 Day Valuation has now dropped £300K (!?) to £1.2M. Land is also in a flood risk area with Above Average Risk thereof. Today 27/1/17 from SS:- The Borrower has extended their contractual completion deadline to 31 January to allow for continuing legal due diligence. Our solicitors are working closely with the Borrower’s solicitor with a view to enable completion to take place. The Borrower has not been the quickest to move on this transaction which has led to delays on all sides but we have made it very clear that the loan needs to be drawn down as soon as possible or the offer of finance will be withdrawn Valuation has also dropped (1,800,000 > 1,365,000) along with the loan to keep it at 38% I'm confused. The VR (dated 7th September 2016) says £1,365,000/£1,200,000. (Wayback Machine doesn't have an old copy.) I'm still waiting for SS to fix the loan description.
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Jan 27, 2017 22:25:27 GMT
Valuation has also dropped (1,800,000 > 1,365,000) along with the loan to keep it at 38% I'm confused. The VR (dated 7th September 2016) says £1,365,000/£1,200,000. (Wayback Machine doesn't have an old copy.) I'm still waiting for SS to fix the loan description. The earliest record I have is 21/12/16 and the values are the same as now. From memory, I think there was no VR when the loan appeared, so SS included some preliminary numbers, and I guess they updated the loan page on 20th when they got the VR.
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Post by seeingred on Jan 28, 2017 12:54:29 GMT
There are two aspects to building on a flood plain (I know, I live on one and I designed my own flood defences). 1. there is the policy matter of not allowing building where it would markedly impact on storage volumes and thereby perhaps affect other properties - usually those downstream if local rates of run-off are increased. 2. suitable protection for the dwelling or other new buildings against flood damage. Item 1. is addressed via the planning system. Sometimes planning is not allowed - and sometimes it should not be allowed but still is........ Where it is allowed, the site design may need to incorporate features to mitigate any negative aspects, for example, areas designed to soak up flood water for a while can be included. Areas can be tree-planted to reduce rate of run-off (etc). This is all very site specific. item 2. is addressed via building design, typically raising the floor levels off the floor plain by (say) 600mm (so you have steps up to your front door). It is all quite easily addressed (but costs money) and the developer is said to have experience in riverside developments. The buildings most at risk from flooding are often those built a long time ago, or as has been seen in recent years, areas with inadequate surface drainage, inadequate to deal with massive amounts of rain in a short period. These areas can be anywhere - even miles away from rivers. Therefore if the area has planning and if the designs are sound, the proximity to a river is itself not necessarily a problem. The argument has even been advanced that properties with riverside views may be increasingly rare and therefore more valuable. They can often sell at a premium - just look at the prices of some flats for sale in Exeter for example, over looking the river (one of the other loans on here!). Exeter nearly flooded badly in 2012 but extensive river engineering undertaken over many decades saved it. Flood risk engineering design is nowadays extensive - for example see this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QL0hYIURykTo see the river Exe in flood near the city centre try this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8IRWfeAbyI
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Post by am on Jan 28, 2017 13:24:35 GMT
There are two aspects to building on a flood plain (I know, I live on one and I designed my own flood defences). 1. there is the policy matter of not allowing building where it would markedly impact on storage volumes and thereby perhaps affect other properties - usually those downstream if local rates of run-off are increased. 2. suitable protection for the dwelling or other new buildings against flood damage. Item 1. is addressed via the planning system. Sometimes planning is not allowed - and sometimes it should not be allowed but still is........ Where it is allowed, the site design may need to incorporate features to mitigate any negative aspects, for example, areas designed to soak up flood water for a while can be included. Areas can be tree-planted to reduce rate of run-off (etc). This is all very site specific. item 2. is addressed via building design, typically raising the floor levels off the floor plain by (say) 600mm (so you have steps up to your front door). It is all quite easily addressed (but costs money) and the developer is said to have experience in riverside developments. The buildings most at risk from flooding are often those built a long time ago, or as has been seen in recent years, areas with inadequate surface drainage, inadequate to deal with massive amounts of rain in a short period. These areas can be anywhere - even miles away from rivers. Therefore if the area has planning and if the designs are sound, the proximity to a river is itself not necessarily a problem. The argument has even been advanced that properties with riverside views may be increasingly rare and therefore more valuable. They can often sell at a premium - just look at the prices of some flats for sale in Exeter for example, over looking the river (one of the other loans on here!). Exeter nearly flooded badly in 2012 but extensive river engineering undertaken over many decades saved it. Flood risk engineering design is nowadays extensive - for example see this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QL0hYIURykTo see the river Exe in flood near the city centre try this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8IRWfeAbyI When I looked into this one last year, what I reckoned was that in the case of dangerously high river levels the water would be allowed to spread into the fields on the west bank of the river. The possible issue might be the impact of flooding on the oil field on the west bank; what has the greater economic and environmental impact - flooding the town or flooding the oil field?
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Post by mikes1531 on Jan 28, 2017 16:45:58 GMT
The earliest record I have is 21/12/16 and the values are the same as now. From memory, I think there was no VR when the loan appeared, so SS included some preliminary numbers, and I guess they updated the loan page on 20th when they got the VR. cooling_dude: I think you're giving SS too much credit. The property inspection was on 7/Sep and the report is dated 27/Sep and, based on the first page of the VR, ISTM that it was sent to Lendy/SS on 27/Sep.
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Post by twoheads on Jan 30, 2017 13:07:48 GMT
Well, this one's just disappeared from the pipeline (13:03).
Current assumption (unless anyone knows different): It is being moved to live but hasn't got there yet.
EDIT: New assumption (no 'go live' mail as pointed out by cooling_dude): It's gone for good.
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Post by twoheads on Jan 30, 2017 14:42:57 GMT
I spoke too soon.
It's back in the pipeline (14:40).
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Post by adrianc on Jan 30, 2017 17:16:48 GMT
Well, this one's just disappeared from the pipeline (13:03).
Current assumption (unless anyone knows different): It is being moved to live but hasn't got there yet.
EDIT: New assumption (no 'go live' mail as pointed out by cooling_dude ): It's gone for good. I spoke too soon.
It's back in the pipeline (14:40). At least it's kept the old pre-fund settings - I'd changed mine from my default, and it's not been reset by the brief disappearance.
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Post by star dust on Jan 30, 2017 18:39:42 GMT
At least it's kept the old pre-fund settings - I'd changed mine from my default, and it's not been reset by the brief disappearance. You mean it isn't £0 and £0
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