ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Aug 23, 2019 20:10:49 GMT
i really dont understand how lendy can receive fees and interest from all of this mess.so where will all this money go and into whose/what account.is liam looking at more big paydays.lendy should receive FA and the monies used for receivers and administration costs returning as much as possible to lenders in all of these loans. liam /lendy caused all this mess and then just shut up shop leaving others to sort out all their sh*t and now they are going to get fees and interest.p2p hey you could not make up it up. Lendy get fees as the agent as per the loan contract, but at a fairer rate, as they are still managing the loan book. All income incl fees will go to creditors & to pay the administrators. All bank accounts are controlled by RSM. Nothing goes to Liam beyond anything due to him as a creditor.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Aug 23, 2019 20:14:53 GMT
i really dont understand how lendy can receive fees and interest from all of this mess.so where will all this money go and into whose/what account.is liam looking at more big paydays.lendy should receive FA and the monies used for receivers and administration costs returning as much as possible to lenders in all of these loans. liam /lendy caused all this mess and then just shut up shop leaving others to sort out all their sh*t and now they are going to get fees and interest.p2p hey you could not make up it up. Yes. And all aided and abetted by the FCA. You really couldnt make it up. Andrew Bailey: You hang your fat smug head in shame. Youre a disgrace. A damn disgrace!!! (Obviously not as much as Liam C. Theres a very special place in hell waiting for him). Seems a bit harsh on Sir Davos.
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Mucho P2P
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Post by Mucho P2P on Aug 23, 2019 20:46:44 GMT
i really dont understand how lendy can receive fees and interest from all of this mess.so where will all this money go and into whose/what account.is liam looking at more big paydays.lendy should receive FA and the monies used for receivers and administration costs returning as much as possible to lenders in all of these loans. liam /lendy caused all this mess and then just shut up shop leaving others to sort out all their sh*t and now they are going to get fees and interest.p2p hey you could not make up it up. Lendy get fees as the agent as per the loan contract, but at a fairer rate, as they are still managing the loan book. All income incl fees will go to creditors & to pay the administrators. All bank accounts are controlled by RSM. Nothing goes to Liam beyond anything due to him as a creditor. Does anyone know if Liam is still on the Lendy Payroll as I believe some of the staff still are/were whilst assisting RSM?
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michaelc
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Post by michaelc on Aug 23, 2019 21:15:16 GMT
Perhaps someone might be kind enough to remind me/us how much (%) of my four figure "investment" I'm likely to get back in October based on best estimates for fees etc ?
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sydb
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Post by sydb on Aug 24, 2019 12:22:45 GMT
It would be a guess. RSM decide. Their last public communication on the issue was, I believe, in the 16th July Joint Administrators' Proposals and Report:
Loan receipts not yet distributed total £7.4m. The majority of this sum, £6.8m, relates to the receipt of funds from the sale of H********* Quay. As noted previously in this report, this sum will be subject to deduction of fees and costs as calculated by the waterfall. The total also includes £230k in respect a partial capital repayment of 17-21 T**** Valley, the entirety of which is to be returned to the relevant Investors. Further detail regarding loan repayments will be communicated to those Investors in due course.
The 'waterfall' is not defined, as far as I can see, other than to indicate that fees are as per Lendy's terms and conditions but that these are a 'particular focus' for the Joint Administrators. Further, we have had communications from RSM regarding anti money laundering procedures and that they feel they must carry these out before any money is released to lenders.
So, as to how much of your investment you are 'likely' to get back in October based on 'estimates', you may as well ask a bloke down the pub. The bottom of my pint says 50%. Cheers.
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Post by adrianc on Aug 25, 2019 6:55:29 GMT
So, as to how much of your investment you are 'likely' to get back in October based on 'estimates', you may as well ask a bloke down the pub. The bottom of my pint says 50%. Cheers.
But is your pint glass half full or half empty?
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Post by Balder on Aug 25, 2019 9:09:04 GMT
Must be half empty as it was once full even possibly overflowing!
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Post by brightspark on Aug 25, 2019 13:09:32 GMT
Perhaps someone might be kind enough to remind me/us how much (%) of my four figure "investment" I'm likely to get back in October based on best estimates for fees etc ? Bearing in mind that you foolishly? unwittingly? naively? invested your hard earned cash in an investment orchestrated by a platform which seems to have behaved without a good grounding in business ethics, immorally, cunningly, unsupervised meaningfully by Regulators in an immature business environment attracting amongst others chancers, the heavily indebted and other such. How much do you expect to recover? Perhaps zero would be a good starting point?
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Post by default on Aug 25, 2019 14:47:00 GMT
Perhaps someone might be kind enough to remind me/us how much (%) of my four figure "investment" I'm likely to get back in October based on best estimates for fees etc ? Bearing in mind that you foolishly? unwittingly? naively? invested your hard earned cash in an investment orchestrated by a platform which seems to have behaved without a good grounding in business ethics, immorally, cunningly, unsupervised meaningfully by Regulators in an immature business environment attracting amongst others chancers, the heavily indebted and other such. How much do you expect to recover? Perhaps zero would be a good starting point? And this was clearly pointed out to everyone when they signed up, wasn't it! Please will people stop blaming investors for their misfortune. Some of us are in extreme difficulty over this. We just don't need this kind of comment. Thank you.
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Post by brightspark on Aug 26, 2019 10:43:33 GMT
Bearing in mind that you foolishly? unwittingly? naively? invested your hard earned cash in an investment orchestrated by a platform which seems to have behaved without a good grounding in business ethics, immorally, cunningly, unsupervised meaningfully by Regulators in an immature business environment attracting amongst others chancers, the heavily indebted and other such. How much do you expect to recover? Perhaps zero would be a good starting point? And this was clearly pointed out to everyone when they signed up, wasn't it! Please will people stop blaming investors for their misfortune. Some of us are in extreme difficulty over this. We just don't need this kind of comment. Thank you. It was not the intention to blame investors. On the contrary any but the very knowledgeable were let down essentially by a complacent legislature who were content to sit on the sidelines whilst inappropriate promises of relatively safe investments were made by the platforms. The only red flag was the caveat that money was at risk. Traditional savings institutions meanwhile continue to disincentivise savers by derisory returns induced by the current macro-economic environment. My hope is that anyone thinking of investing via p to p takes a long hard look at what is on offer before committing.
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Post by gaspilot on Aug 27, 2019 9:11:19 GMT
Perhaps someone might be kind enough to remind me/us how much (%) of my four figure "investment" I'm likely to get back in October based on best estimates for fees etc ? 50%. Eventually. Also, to be precise, it would be more correct to say that we won’t be getting any cash before the 1st October (barring hardship) rather than we will get it during October. I think the wording they used on the portal for funds to be available for withdrawal was 'At this stage, we anticipate that this will be during October.'
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Post by brightspark on Aug 27, 2019 12:34:59 GMT
Bearing in mind that you foolishly? unwittingly? naively? invested your hard earned cash in an investment orchestrated by a platform which seems to have behaved without a good grounding in business ethics, immorally, cunningly, unsupervised meaningfully by Regulators in an immature business environment attracting amongst others chancers, the heavily indebted and other such. How much do you expect to recover? Perhaps zero would be a good starting point? As people say, its anybody's guess as to what recoveries will be. However I EXPECT full compensation from the FCA; dodgy valuer's insurance policies; and claims against fraudulent borrower's assets. What an absolute arse and a disgrace Bailey is: www.telegraph.co.uk/investing/news/investors-need-stronger-protection-risky-schemes-hands-tied/ I can't imagine that much compensation will be forthcoming. There is too much wriggle room and the main perpetrators have already disappeared. The odd desultory court case will grind on and in 10 years time some pittance will be paid out. Once the administrators have completed the bulk of their work to all intents and purposes that will be the end of it. In due course the FCA will publish a report in which they will conclude that a repeat of what went on is unlikely as from 12/2019 new rules are coming in to give further protections to investors. That is my sanguine view.
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Post by martin44 on Aug 27, 2019 22:36:09 GMT
I can't imagine that much compensation will be forthcoming. There is too much wriggle room and the main perpetrators have already disappeared. The odd desultory court case will grind on and in 10 years time some pittance will be paid out. Once the administrators have completed the bulk of their work to all intents and purposes that will be the end of it. In due course the FCA will publish a report in which they will conclude that a repeat of what went on is unlikely as from 12/2019 new rules are coming in to give further protections to investors. That is my sanguine view. If i get back 50% i will be ecstatic.
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Post by picanto on Oct 25, 2019 15:44:27 GMT
Interim payment due on Monday.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Oct 25, 2019 15:56:35 GMT
Somewhat lacking details of interest though. I. E. HOW MUCH?
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