dan83
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Post by dan83 on Jun 13, 2017 11:23:00 GMT
A new loan on £271.318 in the pipe line and £706.141 on the secondary market.
If I wanted any more of this loan (which I don't) I'd buy on the secondary market before I set a pre-fund.
Does the new money get taken up by investors or is some of it dumped on the secondary market?
It would be good to know how much lendy have invested in the secondary market themselves.
No real update on this loan either. I ride/drive past the building quite often and it's looked the same for months, they are obviously busy doing the inside, but a real update and some new pics would be great instead of the usual rubbish, no change, new survey done blah blah blah.
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lobster
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Post by lobster on Jun 15, 2017 12:22:15 GMT
Well the latest tranche of DFL012 appears to have gone live. At least I assume so because it has disappeared off the pipeline. I haven't been keeping a keen eye on the "available amount" on the SM, but I do know it was around 780k first thing this morning and it's about the same now, even though this tranche of 271k has now been released. Seems a bit strange ?
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sqh
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Post by sqh on Jun 15, 2017 13:07:22 GMT
Well the latest tranche of DFL012 appears to have gone live. At least I assume so because it has disappeared off the pipeline. I haven't been keeping a keen eye on the "available amount" on the SM, but I do know it was around 780k first thing this morning and it's about the same now, even though this tranche of 271k has now been released. Seems a bit strange ? Yep - Gone live (Increased to £8,092,697). Absolutely no spike on the SM, so either it 100% filled (unlikely) or LY are holing it back to slowly feed the SM. Last night I checked the difference between the amount on the SM and the sales queue. It was the same as now at £169,479. The loan value increased. That means either the latest tranche was fully subscribed or something more clandestine.
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Post by r1200gs on Jun 15, 2017 13:20:14 GMT
I'm another that is slightly baffled by the amount on the SM. I hold this loan, happy to. It would not surprise me in the slightest if this tranche was fully funded, or close to it. Yes, despite the amount on the SM. Funny things, people.
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GeorgeT
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Post by GeorgeT on Jun 15, 2017 13:42:43 GMT
I'm not sure everyone understands that a brand new tranche being offered on the primary market is not better, newer, shinier and safer than the old queue of stuff sitting on the secondary market.
Or if they do,it may be a subliminal thing and putting in a prefund bid on the primary market just seems a more acceptable thing to do than buying up something old and second-hand from a big long queue on the secondary market.
Also buying on the primary market is a lot more exciting than buying on the secondary market in that you have to pitch your bid and then await the outcome and see how much you got. It's all a process of excitement going right down to will it or won't launch on the day once the clock gets round to 5pm and LY haven't done anything yet.
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username
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Post by username on Jun 15, 2017 15:05:31 GMT
I'd very much like to see a general statement from Lendy regarding the way that it structures DFL loans to borrowers. I'm currently very discouraged from lending to DFLs without confirmation that Lendy has the requisite arrangements in place to cover the full loan amount without having to rely on retail investors. Risk that the Borrower doesn't meet its obligations is one thing, and can be difficult to mitigate. Risk that the Lender cannot meet its obligations is entirely another. Combine the two, and DFLs become risk too far for me. Currently, for me at least, the maxim "If in doubt, stay out" applies. I would like that to change and all it would take is a clear statement from the platform. I couldn't agree more, without knowing any better, it worries me that this could take down the platform. We need a statement on this and some forward guidance and what level Lendy want the SM at, similar to the BOE imbuing stability and confidence in the economy through their minutes on interest rates and inflation.
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twoheads
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Post by twoheads on Jun 15, 2017 15:58:34 GMT
Last night I checked the difference between the amount on the SM and the sales queue. It was the same as now at £169,479. The loan value increased. That means either the latest tranche was fully subscribed or something more clandestine. I believe that LY have held it back, and will slowly release on the SM - It hasn't been dumped on the SM (according to the data I have at hand) I simply can't believe that it has fully subscribed (could be wrong) ! An idea to keep an eye on DFL012 SM activity for the next couple of days This method of checking the SM value against the sales queue is the best we have at this time.
If the amount (SM vs SQ) increases then we know that either and underwriter or Lendy themselves have held some of the loan and have dumped it on the SM (regular Lendy investor's sales take priority over Lendy/underwriter sales).
It is possible, immediately after a tranche goes live, to glean some information by looking at the recent investors for the loan. If a loan or tranche does not fill then ALL values will be equal to the possible selections on the prefunding page. If one is different to the prefund possibilities, then it is likely (but not certain) that the loan/tranche was fully funded and that the allocation was equal to the largest amount shown. This method has a lot of uncertainty but does quite often reveal the truth. One has to be aware that on fully funded loans/tranches there is often a small surplus left on the SM which can be immediately gobbled (showing up in the recent investors) and also, on a tranche where there is a huge chunk already available in the mother loan, there may be all sorts of SM activity.
I often make a quick check of the recent investors tab as soon as a loan or tranche goes live. Unfortunately, I was in a meeting today when the latest HQ tranche went live. Perhaps I will automate the process of viewing the recent investors after a 'go live' so that I can provide the information more reliably in future.
EDIT: Many investors will already know this stuff. The explanations are included for information only. Apologies to any grand-mères already au fait with oeuf sucking.
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n
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Post by n on Jun 21, 2017 14:53:51 GMT
It says 'This video is unavailable' - is it just me?
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liso
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Post by liso on Jun 21, 2017 14:58:21 GMT
Same for me, cant's see it. Says it's private.
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mrflush
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Post by mrflush on Jun 21, 2017 15:00:38 GMT
It says 'This video is unavailable' - is it just me? It says 'This video is private' for me. Crossed with liso
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n
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Post by n on Jun 21, 2017 15:07:25 GMT
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n
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Post by n on Jun 21, 2017 15:24:37 GMT
Thanks Timmy, nice video - I didn't manage to spot your avatar though!
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puffin
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Post by puffin on Jun 21, 2017 21:58:33 GMT
Thanks Timmy! Great update as always.
This is my biggest individual loan. Only thing, is there more money to be raised before completion?
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GeorgeT
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Post by GeorgeT on Jun 21, 2017 22:37:48 GMT
The post above illustrates why I struggle to understand how people think they can do such extensive due dil so as to mitigate risk. At least where the DFLs are are concerned.
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Post by jimc99 on Jun 22, 2017 6:27:51 GMT
What loan are you referring to please?
What is the name of the parent company?
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