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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 9:35:45 GMT
DFL018 Tranche in the Pipeline Lendy state in bold "THIS LOAN WAS PREVIOUSLY 8%, BUT IS NOW OFFERED AT 10%. ALL CURRENT AND NEW INVESTORS WILL BE PAID AT 10% FOR THE DURATION OF THEIR INVESTMENT" As far as I'm aware this is simply not true as I've been invested in this loan from the start at 10% Paul64? Go live email now sent out too.
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Post by grotdog on Aug 18, 2017 10:16:37 GMT
Interesting to see loans coming on all the time - but WHY are we seeing an increasing number of older loans going seriously bad - there is a worrying trend that as loans come close to repayment, there is clearly no exit strategy, and the vast majority seem to be WAY overvalued. We are fed glowing reports (Gravel quarry, Waste recycling plant, Cotswold manor house, Prestatyn leisure complex etc) which all of a sudden turn into legal 'glitches' and then a week or so later "the receiver says" and the loan is frozen. If the valuation surveyors did their job, I suspect half of these loans would never go to market, and if they did, the valuations should be 50% less than they are - not to mention the clearly very shady background of some of the lenders. Lendy is not looking good at the moment - and nor are their valuers and loan processing people who should be doing far more due diligence on the borrowers who are clearly using the system to screw money out of P2P lenders. I've stopped telling folk about Lendy - its embarassing to see how many loans are going down the plughole.
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Post by p2plender on Aug 18, 2017 10:48:51 GMT
Keep calm and carry on buying the pipeline...
Meanwhile I'm down to 9 grand left. Gawd elp us when the unfilled DFL tranches hit the sm post Sep.
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Post by elliotn on Aug 18, 2017 11:01:07 GMT
not to mention the clearly very shady background of some of the lenders. AIUI Lendy are no longer allowed to lend - who else were you thinking of?
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Post by grotdog on Aug 18, 2017 11:12:40 GMT
Sorry - shady background of some of the Borrowers - not lenders... :-)
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Post by grotdog on Aug 18, 2017 11:17:22 GMT
As chartered surveyors ourselves, if we did a building survey and left someone with a liability for latent defects, we'd be hit with a lawsuit. I'm not really sure how the valuation surveyors are managing to put values on properties that when Lendy attempt to sell, are not even getting a whimper of interest from the buying public. I think at these silly values, Lendy need to be doing max of 50% LTV to have a ghost of a chance of recovery, and insisting on the borrower signing over their home, car, and old clothes instead of accepting security of a property owned by a company set up to do a development, so clearly no recourse on the borrower. Seems to be recipe for disaster.
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Post by ozboy on Aug 18, 2017 11:21:49 GMT
As chartered surveyors ourselves, if we did a building survey and left someone with a liability for latent defects, we'd be hit with a lawsuit. I'm not really sure how the valuation surveyors are managing to put values on properties that when Lendy attempt to sell, are not even getting a whimper of interest from the buying public. I think at these silly values, Lendy need to be doing max of 50% LTV to have a ghost of a chance of recovery, and insisting on the borrower signing over their home, car, and old clothes instead of accepting security of a property owned by a company set up to do a development, so clearly no recourse on the borrower. Seems to be recipe for disaster.Oh yes, it's gonna hit the fan orright. Why would Lendy or any of the other culprits,( and they are culprits) give a toss for a single nanosecond, it's not their money, they, ultimately, don't care. It's obvious.
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Post by grotdog on Aug 18, 2017 11:22:40 GMT
Keep calm and carry on buying the pipeline... Meanwhile I'm down to 9 grand left. Gawd elp us when the unfilled DFL tranches hit the sm post Sep. But the pipeline is full of potentially disastrous bad debt. Unfilled tranches - are only unfilled because people can see how much bad debt is building up and don't see Lendy as secure enough - Lendy NEED to aggressively deal with this - the secondary market is barely moving - you'd never be able to sell anything on it at the moment, and if you list a tranche on the SM, you immediately lose entitlement to interest even if the tranche never sells.. Why would anyone put anything on the SM? Lendy have regally screwed it in my opinion - too much bad debt, not enough due diligence, huge over-values of subject properties, and involvement with some very risky borrowers.
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Post by dp on Aug 18, 2017 14:56:53 GMT
DFL018 Tranche in the Pipeline Lendy state in bold "THIS LOAN WAS PREVIOUSLY 8%, BUT IS NOW OFFERED AT 10%. ALL CURRENT AND NEW INVESTORS WILL BE PAID AT 10% FOR THE DURATION OF THEIR INVESTMENT" As far as I'm aware this is simply not true as I've been invested in this loan from the start at 10% Paul64 ? Go live email now sent out too. Yes. I also noticed this one hit the pipeline and a was a little surprised. Not because of the claim it's risen from 8 to 10% - as you correctly point out, it has been 10% since first listing back in February. I was surprised it wasn't increased to 12%. Perhaps that is the intention, Paul64 / Lendy Support ? Confirmed as 10% but will that be changed to 12%? Has anyone had any clarification on this?
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Post by star dust on Aug 21, 2017 23:45:52 GMT
Not sure when these appeared on the website, but I don't think they were there yesterday
DFL019 - Dev Tranche 7 - Loan Value £257,760 DFL008 - Tranche 12 - Loan Value £296,956
and the much heralded Pre-fund by rate is also present
"Pre-fund loans by rate Choose a default investment amount for every pipeline loan with a specific rate. Loan rate Pre-funding 7% loans 8% loans 9% loans 10% loans 11% loans 12% loans "
Can't see that I'll ever be using it though.
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Post by upland on Aug 23, 2017 6:35:33 GMT
Has anyone else noticed the lack of new loans in the pipeline? Loads of additional trenches, but no new loans. Would anyone know where the bulk of the money for these additional tranches comes from ?
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Aug 23, 2017 7:23:56 GMT
Cowes?
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Post by twoheads on Aug 23, 2017 13:36:53 GMT
Finally... a new loan:
DFL030 - A hotel in Norwich.
Value: £ 3,520,000 Loan: £ 647,466 LTV: 18% PA: 12% Term: 365 days
EDIT: The last new loans (not tranches) to make to live were DFL029 and PBL190 which both appeared June 7th and went live the day after.
There was a more recent aborted pipeline PBL in Nottingham which appeared June 26th but disappeared July 12th.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Aug 23, 2017 14:24:25 GMT
/mod hat off
That's 18% LTV now .. which could well be 180% LTV (like some others I could mention) by the time the builder downs tools, one assumes? ISTM that LTVs for these DFLs really ought to be expressed as an imaginary number, (X+ Yi), where Y is the 'IF' value. 8>.
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Post by GeorgeT on Aug 24, 2017 10:12:32 GMT
There's a beauty of a new PBL in the pipeline this morning. I am out and about on my phone and not able to produce all the details but hopefully somebody can step in and add it here because this one has had me salivating based on my skim read of the basic particulars. On the surface it looks like it ticks every single box and even a few boxes that aren't on the form.
LY is really hitting form again in my opinion.
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