IFISAcava
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Post by IFISAcava on May 28, 2017 15:39:46 GMT
The effect on the FS SM was electric - I had a couple of days with over 20 sales and other busy days - my usual is about 2-3 sales each week. Exactly my point
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peteuk
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Post by peteuk on May 28, 2017 18:23:52 GMT
Maybe they could go back to the option they offered when they first started trading, of a choice of six months interest up front that you could reinvest, or access to the secondry market
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Post by elliotn on May 29, 2017 0:55:31 GMT
Surely all they have to do is introduce an IFISA and all the liquidity will return (nearly) instantly? That will take about a month or so isa manager application at hmrc once they are authorised by fca. We can infer changes being made for fca (although not admitted unlike MT) in dropping Saving from their name + SM credit facility but have no further indication when this might happen other than anecdotally some other biggies have recently gone through such as Z/FC and perhaps more comparable FS/MT. Would be interesting to know the mechanics of the mini-bonds and when these might be scaled up too.
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Post by lendinglawyer on May 29, 2017 7:32:36 GMT
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Post by brokenbiscuits on May 29, 2017 8:39:54 GMT
It may be worth taking Ly out of isolation and looking at any correlation with other loan books. 13% on MT, CB & 14% on Col have left unusual SM balances as investors tend to cross-finance across books. I have used lendy the longest but have holdings in moneything and collateral too. L has always had the most of my money until this month. C is now number one for me when looking at total funds invested and M is catching up. When L started to reduce their rates to us (unknown if their profit margin reduced at the same rate) there was less direct competition at that time. Now we have more platforms moving into larger property loans. Competition is good for lenders and borrowers alike but not so good to the platform that offers the worst rates (to both lender and borrower) and/or takes the most profit margins. We are already seeing midterm refinances to different platforms and pipeline loans disappearing only to reappear on a rival platform. Interesting times ahead.
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IFISAcava
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Post by IFISAcava on May 29, 2017 8:40:06 GMT
They absolutely have to do an IFISA given that the main competitors are doing so. If they are much behind Collateral/MT/AC then the SM stockpile will get bigger still. Similarly, I think MT might be wise to reprioritise offering their IFISA. And looking at the the changes to ongoing loan T&C's perhaps they agree.
In the meantime, I'm transferring some ISA money to Proplend tomorrow.
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Post by df on May 29, 2017 18:38:25 GMT
They absolutely have to do an IFISA given that the main competitors are doing so. If they are much behind Collateral/MT/AC then the SM stockpile will get bigger still. Similarly, I think MT might be wise to reprioritise offering their IFISA. And looking at the the changes to ongoing loan T&C's perhaps they agree. In the meantime, I'm transferring some ISA money to Proplend tomorrow. As of today, many platforms are already offering IFISA. FS, in my opinion, offered the best (both, rates and T&C) and I guess many investors already have their allowance there. It is unlikely that L will be able to offer anything better than FS. I don't think introduction of IFISA will result in significant increase of new investors. SM will continue to be a 'monster' until Ly manage to redeem overdue and defaulted loans.
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IFISAcava
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Post by IFISAcava on May 29, 2017 21:47:59 GMT
They absolutely have to do an IFISA given that the main competitors are doing so. If they are much behind Collateral/MT/AC then the SM stockpile will get bigger still. Similarly, I think MT might be wise to reprioritise offering their IFISA. And looking at the the changes to ongoing loan T&C's perhaps they agree. In the meantime, I'm transferring some ISA money to Proplend tomorrow. As of today, many platforms are already offering IFISA. FS, in my opinion, offered the best (both, rates and T&C) and I guess many investors already have their allowance there. It is unlikely that L will be able to offer anything better than FS. I don't think introduction of IFISA will result in significant increase of new investors. SM will continue to be a 'monster' until Ly manage to redeem overdue and defaulted loans. Perhaps, but I reckon there would be plenty of previous years' ISA cash ready to be transferred into L. Unless MT, Collateral etc beat them to it.
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Post by lobster on May 31, 2017 7:44:21 GMT
Monthly interest payments are due tomorrow, which will be a very important day for Lendy investors and also for Lendy themselves. It's vital for platform confidence that a good chunk of the interest payments go straight back onto the SM to clear down as much of the backlog as possible.
A couple of repayments would undoubtedly help too, as would a relatively benign outcome to a few of the more concerning defaulted loans, particularly the "Gloucestershire 6" and a certain Somerset Office Block.
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Post by seeingred on May 31, 2017 9:51:12 GMT
A couple of repayments would undoubtedly help too, as would a relatively benign outcome to a few of the more concerning defaulted loans, particularly the "Gloucestershire 6" and a certain Somerset Office Block. The words "benign outcome" and "Somerset Office Block" should never be used together in the same sentence.
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chunkie
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Post by chunkie on May 31, 2017 14:55:07 GMT
SM now $4.15 million
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GeorgeT
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Post by GeorgeT on May 31, 2017 14:59:07 GMT
But what will it be this time tomorrow after the interest run? I estimate it will be down to about £3.5m
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copacetic
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Post by copacetic on May 31, 2017 20:07:44 GMT
I wonder if the sale queues might dip a bit as people cancel their sales when they realise there's little chance of selling out of certain loans and they may as well earn the interest. I'm at the very front of the queue for one loan with a £250 loan part I put up for sale at the start of the month but it came to the front of the queue a week ago and it's now only 70% sold. Theres £220k total for sale and at the current rate of ~£25 per day that would take 24 years to clear! Obviously it may speed up sometime if someone takes a big chunk but with other better looking loans still available it seems pointless trying to sell something that probably won't move and missing out on the interest.
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Post by bababill on Jun 1, 2017 3:15:58 GMT
Imagine if the interest is not paid out due to unforeseen circumstances. That would cause even a further uproar.
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Post by littleoldlady on Jun 1, 2017 11:23:13 GMT
My loans in DFL01 c£40k back and DFL02 c£4k back did not move up at all at month end, so it looks like people near(ish) the front of the q are willing to lose interest in order to maintain their position, as am I. Does not signify much confidence.
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