rushy
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Post by rushy on Mar 31, 2017 14:26:37 GMT
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stevio
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Post by stevio on Mar 31, 2017 19:05:36 GMT
It's good to be different, considering stevefindlay's Professional Investment background this comes as no great surprise; BondMason's Business model also lends itself well to Pensions planning. Not really SIPP suppliers so far, such as Greyfriars, have been extremely conservative and strict with the platform's they allow investment in, to only a handful and have now withdrawn almost completely from P2P, I suspect because they fear losing their FCA status. Other P2P pension providers have limited investment to just one platform. The rules for which platforms and loans can be invested in through a pension scheme are complex, grey and with hefty penalties for getting it wrong So should BM enable pension administrators access to which loans they invest in, they may find the list of platforms quite restrictive, which sort of defeats the diversity aspect of BM There is also the conflict of interest should the pension administrator know the investments, but not the customer. Would they have a duty to disclose this to the customer or could they even potentially be held accountable down the line should the investments fail or even potentially for miss selling the pension Finally there are fairly substantial fees charged by SIPP and SSAS that allow investing in P2P in the region of £1500+ per annum. The hope would be to have a large pot and to recoup the fees through high yield loans. However BM both have there own fees compounding that and are not very high yield, targeting just 7% So IMHO, I think BMs business model would throw up several hurdles to investing through a pension
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Greenwood2
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Post by Greenwood2 on Mar 31, 2017 19:52:33 GMT
Pension no use to me, ISA would be good.
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Post by stevefindlay on Mar 31, 2017 21:26:30 GMT
There are a number of structural reasons why its difficult / unattractive for SIPP administrators to enable their clients to invest in P2P Lending.
We've worked with SIPP providers to confirm that our model is able to solve these structural challenges.
We are now in a position to roll this out - and we are very happy to discuss how this can work directly with your SIPP administrators.
Please drop us an email to move forward: invest@bondmason.com
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Post by stevefindlay on Apr 1, 2017 7:08:21 GMT
There are a number of structural reasons why its difficult / unattractive for SIPP administrators to enable their clients to invest in P2P Lending. We've worked with SIPP providers to confirm that our model is able to solve these structural challenges. We are now in a position to roll this out - and we are very happy to discuss how this can work directly with your SIPP administrators. Please drop us an email to move forward: invest@bondmason.com Quick question, though somewhat topic since not directly related to SIPPs or SSAS. Do you have any investors who are using an offshore (or onshore) life assurance bond to invest into BM? SIPPs are fine but aren't scaleable given the low LTAs that now exist. I have an offshore life bond but it cannot invest in P2P since discretionary investments in single loans (or stocks) are ineligible. Typically I just hold funds inside the wrapper. BM might be an edge case. The investor is not investing directly into the loans and the service is managed (which ticks the necessary boxes to be eligible) but you're not a conventional collective investment scheme. To be honest I can never quite pin down what BM actually is. Your not a fund but neither are you a P2P platform; I could say a managed "P2P aggregator" but what does that really mean anyway. samford71 - it is certainly something we can look into for you. Please send details of where your offshore account is and (if you want) the administrator and we can discuss what may be possible. Many thanks
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Post by keystone on Apr 1, 2017 11:24:40 GMT
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