mary
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Post by mary on Apr 28, 2017 7:57:27 GMT
I loved current concept... I already have too many other platforms which require maintenance This sounds like RateSetter II to me... Completely agree. Like it as is, certainly don't want to have to maintain it daily. If the platform requires regular logins and oversight to ensure all money is deployed, then I expect much higher rates of return, as is available on many other platforms.
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Post by nesako on May 16, 2017 14:53:27 GMT
So that everyone is 100% clear, here is my chat transcript for everyone to read covering the rate changes on Growth Street. In short: selecting priority rate does have a negative impact to rates:
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Steerpike
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Post by Steerpike on May 17, 2017 17:36:06 GMT
I made a similar enquiry a few days ago and received a similar response.
I also suggested that the mechanism was flawed but did not receive a response to this particular point, however, it seems to me self evident that if rates can only reduce then there is no true market rate and sooner or later the system will break down.
I am looking for a good home for 30 day money but feel reluctant to invest further in a platform that appears not to have a long term viable market mechanism.
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nush
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Post by nush on May 18, 2017 22:21:37 GMT
fully invested today at 6.4%. money went in on monday morning so not too bad.
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littleoldlady
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Post by littleoldlady on May 19, 2017 21:22:42 GMT
Given that 6.4% yields more than 6.3% if the extra waiting time is less than 6 days, can all of us on this forum agree not to use the priority rate? I don't know what proportion of the total lender base we represent but it might be enough to stop or at least slow down the slide in rates.
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Post by khampson on May 19, 2017 21:47:20 GMT
Given that 6.4% yields more than 6.3% if the extra waiting time is less than 6 days, can all of us on this forum agree not to use the priority rate? I don't know what proportion of the total lender base we represent but it might be enough to stop or at least slow down the slide in rates. I do agree but we are such a small part of the 800 or so lenders, sadly even lending at 2.5% someone will lend at 2.4%, really I think growth street should step in to make sure this does no happen, gs get no benefit from the number of lenders as they focus at the other end that pays the bills as the borrower pays the charges to borrow money are we are just here to supply the money for them, GS have an active interest in getting the best rate for the borrower, as long as there is enough money to service these then they are happy. Guess would love for us to lend at silly low rates as long as the borrower clients increases then no one is interested
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Post by kaya on May 24, 2017 14:15:16 GMT
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Post by j2o on May 29, 2017 16:21:46 GMT
Given that 6.4% yields more than 6.3% if the extra waiting time is less than 6 days, can all of us on this forum agree not to use the priority rate? I don't know what proportion of the total lender base we represent but it might be enough to stop or at least slow down the slide in rates. Classic prisoners dilemma... but careful re your 6 days assumption. That would make sense if it was only 6 days slippage *per year* i.e. 6/365 x 6.4% ~= 0.1% I was on the original higher 6.5% "market" rate. But at the last loan rollover (which if I understand correctly happens *each month*) it took 4 days for my money to be re-lent. (To see this look at current loan start dates vs old loan end dates - don't go by the transaction history as that just shows when the lend order was placed, not when the next loan started). If that happens every 30 days from now on, that's 4 days of interest missed every 30 days, so over 13% cash drag, or approx 0.9% per annum. So it makes sense to move to the 0.1% lower "priority" rate if it means my money will be lent out on the same day it's repaid every month - which has happened 96% of the time according to these stats (although they haven't been updated for almost 2 months now...) www.growthstreet.co.uk/lend-order-statisticsSo yes, expect the rates on Growth Street to continue to fall.
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Post by IFISAcava on May 29, 2017 16:28:00 GMT
Given that 6.4% yields more than 6.3% if the extra waiting time is less than 6 days, can all of us on this forum agree not to use the priority rate? I don't know what proportion of the total lender base we represent but it might be enough to stop or at least slow down the slide in rates. Classic prisoners dilemma... but careful re your 6 days assumption. That would make sense if it was only 6 days slippage *per year* i.e. 6/365 x 6.4% ~= 0.1% I was on the original higher 6.5% "market" rate. But at the last loan rollover (which if I understand correctly happens *each month*) it took 4 days for my money to be re-lent. (To see this look at current loan start dates vs old loan end dates - don't go by the transaction history as that just shows when the lend order was placed, not when the next loan started). If that happens every 30 days from now on, that's 4 days of interest missed every 30 days, so over 13% cash drag, or approx 0.9% per annum. So it makes sense to move to the 0.1% lower "priority" rate if it means my money will be lent out on the same day it's repaid every month - which has happened 96% of the time according to these stats (although they haven't been updated for almost 2 months now...) www.growthstreet.co.uk/lend-order-statisticsSo yes, expect the rates on Growth Street to continue to fall. Aren't they soon planning to make lending rates fully flexible anyway (like Ratesetter)?
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Post by Greenwood2 on May 29, 2017 19:25:01 GMT
And that will push rates down faster.
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Post by IFISAcava on May 29, 2017 22:00:42 GMT
Except, there's no mechanism for it to go back up again, as we have established. Was the 6.5% just a loss leader to get people in and get the platform started off?
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mary
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Post by mary on May 30, 2017 11:26:12 GMT
Classic prisoners dilemma... but careful re your 6 days assumption. That would make sense if it was only 6 days slippage *per year* i.e. 6/365 x 6.4% ~= 0.1% I was on the original higher 6.5% "market" rate. But at the last loan rollover (which if I understand correctly happens *each month*) it took 4 days for my money to be re-lent. (To see this look at current loan start dates vs old loan end dates - don't go by the transaction history as that just shows when the lend order was placed, not when the next loan started). If that happens every 30 days from now on, that's 4 days of interest missed every 30 days, so over 13% cash drag, or approx 0.9% per annum. So it makes sense to move to the 0.1% lower "priority" rate if it means my money will be lent out on the same day it's repaid every month - which has happened 96% of the time according to these stats (although they haven't been updated for almost 2 months now...) www.growthstreet.co.uk/lend-order-statisticsSo yes, expect the rates on Growth Street to continue to fall. Aren't they soon planning to make lending rates fully flexible anyway (like Ratesetter)? If they do, I'm off, RateSetter 30 day rate hovering around 2%!
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Post by nush on May 30, 2017 11:39:19 GMT
Aren't they soon planning to make lending rates fully flexible anyway (like Ratesetter)? If they do, I'm off, RateSetter 30 day rate hovering around 2%! same
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Post by kaya on May 30, 2017 13:26:30 GMT
My latest stats show repayments on 29th, with new loans originated on the 29th, and all at market rate, so hold your nerve and go for that extra 0.1%!
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Post by khampson on May 31, 2017 15:28:34 GMT
My latest stats show repayments on 29th, with new loans originated on the 29th, and all at market rate, so hold your nerve and go for that extra 0.1%! me too, I will be off
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