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Post by khampson on May 2, 2017 11:37:59 GMT
Hi I am thinking about a longer term investment and was thinking along the lines of Moneyfarm, what are your thoughts on this, I only have around 7k to be invested and currently use Growthstreet, Bondmason and ratesetter, am I best sticking with these or going down the isa route? and reviews and Moneyfarm will be great.
Thanks
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Post by pauls on May 2, 2017 12:43:08 GMT
I have been with MF for a while with a £1.5 General Investment Account. I regularly top up with a little spare cash. Presently sitting at 8.9% performance (less than a year).
In terms of platform functionality - I have had no issues. At the start you fill in a profiling questionnaire which decides on your risk factor. An account is then allocated. Fund deposit can be bank transfer or DD. Be advised (my) DD is very slow.
I find there is enough info and options to see what is going on and I feel comfortable just letting things tick along. Pretty much a set up and forget process.
In terms or robo platforms I am also with Nutmeg. MF is out performing.
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Post by star dust on May 2, 2017 12:58:56 GMT
I've never used them, but there was a thread started in Chat earlier this year here, and it seems Neil_P2PBlog has reviewed robo advisors too. There are some more similar mentions in other threads also if you search the forum for MoneyFarm .
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Post by snowmobile on May 2, 2017 13:20:57 GMT
Don't forget to go through a cashback site if you do decide to invest.
There is currently a generous offer on Topcashback: £210 for a minimum £900 a month DD for at least 3 months. Also on Quidco at slightly less.
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Post by Neil_P2PBlog on May 2, 2017 23:21:26 GMT
I've tried nutmeg and moneyfarm. They both seem quite similar but moneyfarm is cheaper for investment amounts under 20k or so (my basic fee calculator: p2pblog.co.uk/compare-robo-advisors-uk/). It's quite hard to compare performance against something like a vanguard lifestrategy or msci world tracker as it is not easy to find much performance data. In my opinion one of the biggest differentiators in performance recently is their opinion on currency hedging.
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Post by snowmobile on May 2, 2017 23:27:05 GMT
I've just received the weekly moneysavingexpert email, and there is a new cashback offer of £500 on a £5k investment link. Limited to the first 500 customers, full details on the Moneyfarm website link. The linked page also details yet another offer of £750 cashback, but with a £10k investment. They seem extremely keen to attract new customers. Maybe I shouldn't have jumped at the Topcashback offer so quickly
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Post by adrianc on May 3, 2017 12:51:42 GMT
The link's giving me a different offer - fee-free for the first year on £20k.
I'm presuming the £500 cashback's run out already.
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Post by star dust on May 3, 2017 13:12:12 GMT
The link's giving me a different offer - fee-free for the first year on £20k. I'm presuming the £500 cashback's run out already. If you go through MSE it's still there. I had an on-line chat with someone (Will Hedden) early this morning and was told that ISA transfer's would be eligible. So gathered info together etc signed up half an hour ago thought I'd better double check it was still available before I completed all the personal and financial stuff and was told I'd only get the cash-back if I sent cash over immediately due to unprecedented demand, and they wouldn't count an ISA transfer until the cash turned up so I wouldn't get the cash-back. Not impressed, and thankgoodness I didn't sign up straight away this morning. If you can transfer some cash straight in and act now you might still get it. Ask the on-line chat or phone (I'm currently away so couldn't phone).
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Post by adrianc on May 3, 2017 13:18:13 GMT
The link's giving me a different offer - fee-free for the first year on £20k. I'm presuming the £500 cashback's run out already. If you go through MSE it's still there. That was through the MSE link...
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Post by star dust on May 3, 2017 13:25:07 GMT
If you go through MSE it's still there. That was through the MSE link... Well, I don't know what you are seeing because I've just tried yet again, and it's still there, with the £5000 £750 one you are referring to below it.
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Post by david42 on May 3, 2017 17:57:14 GMT
I've just received the weekly moneysavingexpert email, and there is a new cashback offer of £500 on a £5k investment link. Limited to the first 500 customers, full details on the Moneyfarm website link. The linked page also details yet another offer of £750 cashback, but with a £10k investment. Thanks for the heads up. I have just signed up. A good opportunity to try out Moneyfarm. I think the confusion on the offers is that the top of the screen goes on about the offer that a £20k investment is free of charges for 1 year. But if you scroll down, you get to the £500 and £750 cashback offers. Martin Lewies says there are only 100 offers left, and if the offer is not displayed then it is no longer available.
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Post by m1234 on May 31, 2017 11:04:38 GMT
Hi guys, we have recently added a managed investment channel to our platform including robo-advisors which led us to realise a real need for greater information on how some of these 'robo' platforms work.Hopefully you might find the following useful when looking to compare some of the key players in the industry: Moneyfarm: learn.off3r.com/moneyfarm-review/Nutmeg: learn.off3r.com/nutmeg-review/Scalable Capital: learn.off3r.com/scalable-capital-review/(these do include affiliate links in the factsheets). Would love to hear any feedback that you may have on any of these. Cheers.
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Post by gb007 on Mar 16, 2019 19:37:14 GMT
Cashback offer is back at Moneyfarm for ISA investments for new and existing investors : Invest £2,000 and you’ll get a £50 bonus Invest £5,000 and you’ll get a £150 bonus Invest £10,000 and you’ll get a £300 bonus Invest £20,000 and you’ll get a £600 bonus Your investment must be in your account, or your ISA transfer form submitted by 3pm on Friday 5 April 2019.
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Post by benaj on Mar 16, 2019 22:38:07 GMT
I got cashback from TCB, paid quickly.
One thing I like about money farm is the liquidity, but P2P would probably beat any robo manager for 2018 performance.
my 14 months XIRR: 2.19% vs Moneyfarm 'highest risk 'advertised past performance +31.24% (from Jan 2016 to Mar 2019),
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Post by r00lish67 on Mar 17, 2019 9:18:26 GMT
Edit : Please disregard these calculations below! an error was made (just leaving for consistency of thread)I was thinking about posting my experience here, so this has prompted me to do so. I invested with Moneyfarm for a cashback bung about 18 months ago I think. After reviewing it's performance this month - I'm disappointed. My settings were geared to the highest level of risk exposure, so being under the fee-paying threshold (at the time, it's changed now) I expected performance perhaps broadly comparable to a low cost index fund such as Vanguard Lifestrategy 60 or 80. As a rough idea to compare: VWRL (100% global equities) in that period returned about 10% Vanguard 80 in that period returned about 7%. Moneyfarm 'highest risk' returned about 1.5%. I'd have to do the analysis to work out exactly why (I can't be jaffed TBH), but given the emails they were sending me in the intervening period, my strong suspicion is they were attempting to be a bit too clever in tweaking allocations and especially in currency hedging in an attempt to 'beat' the effects of Brexit. This may have backfired. Note also that with the fee structure at the time I was paying a 0% fee to moneyfarm for the first £10k (my total investment was under £10k so I paid zero directly to them). Their fee structure now means that you will pay 0.7% of your investment on any amount (with various introductory offers available no doubt). In every other respect I'd recommend them (customer service, platform, payment of bungs etc), but I've personally disinvested even though I'm entitled to fee-free investment. Edit: The best investments I've ever made personally (not advice) is to open a low-cost share dealing account (e.g Halifax) and buy and hold low cost index funds/ETF's. Anything else introduces more middlemen, cost, and risk than is strictly necessary IMV. Edit2: Interesting article on their performance here . One quote: "The team recently increased exposure to sterling, primarily through hedged products. “We are cautious about adding hedged ETFs at every opportunity because of the costs you incur, and over the long-term it’s not clear how much benefit you derive. But amid political situations such as we have in the UK at the moment it seems prudent" I just can't help concluding from my brief dalliance that robo-investment might be the new form of active fund managers coming back in to earn their cash through being 'active' with passive shares to the detriment of investors, whilst charging of course for the privilege. No doubt one soon will trumpet their 'overperformance' and investors will flock to the robo-investor flavour of the month only to see it then underperform, whilst of course they still take their fee. Sound familiar?
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