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Post by mrclondon on May 12, 2018 17:27:12 GMT
I'm sure the upper part will be clad, above the bricks Agreed (the design appears to be a part brick, part black clading), but given the height of the building it is slightly surprising the scafolding has been removed completely, even if the upper levels needed removing to allow the cladding panels to be craned in.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on May 12, 2018 19:09:18 GMT
Perchance the cladding is getting an extra twice-over w.r.t. fire safety .. lots of that going on, for obvious reasons. At least it won't have to be stripped off and redone, as is happening in a few buildings.
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Post by metoo on May 13, 2018 5:04:40 GMT
I'm sure the upper part will be clad, above the bricks If you search online, there are several property investing websites showing the architect's CGI for the finished building. The brickwork was intended to go up to the top. Scissor lifts have been used for working onsite though.
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Post by red on May 13, 2018 11:16:06 GMT
That's a lot of bricks to be laying from lifts. But at the same time, I think it's unlikely they'd strike the scaffold for nonpayment so soon. It wasn't too long ago people on site were reporting all bills and wages were being paid and deliveries were still arriving.
I don't know if the site is normally closed at weekends so I guess we either wait and see if there's activity next time in2tense passes by on a week day, or if anyone feels the need they can ask the contractor directly if work is ongoing (you can see the necessary information in the images, if required. I think outright providing their details might be a breach of the forum rules. )
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Post by SteveT on May 13, 2018 11:21:27 GMT
I'm sure the upper part will be clad, above the bricks If you search online, there are several property investing websites showing the architect's CGI for the finished building. The brickwork was intended to go up to the top. Scissor lifts have been used for working onsite though. Clearly the external treatment has been amended since that CGI was made. The brickwork is neatly finished to precisely the same level as on the left-hand side of the building, where the cladding above is already installed.
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Post by keystone on May 13, 2018 11:28:20 GMT
Is cladding significantly cheaper than bricks?
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Post by SteveT on May 13, 2018 11:58:22 GMT
Is cladding significantly cheaper than bricks? Yes, both in terms of materials and labour (much faster to fix)
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Post by hazellend on May 13, 2018 13:00:53 GMT
Is cladding significantly cheaper than bricks? Yes, both in terms of materials and labour (much faster to fix) Interesting. Stupid question, but why bother with bricks at all then?
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Post by SteveT on May 13, 2018 13:59:28 GMT
Bricks look smart and blend into the street scene at ground level. Masonry is also much more resilient to surface damage over the years from vans, bikes, etc.
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Post by metoo on May 13, 2018 15:17:23 GMT
If you search online, there are several property investing websites showing the architect's CGI for the finished building. The brickwork was intended to go up to the top. Scissor lifts have been used for working onsite though. Clearly the external treatment has been amended since that CGI was made. The brickwork is neatly finished to precisely the same level as on the left-hand side of the building, where the cladding above is already installed. I'd like to believe that explanation, but if you look more closely at the photos above (enlarge), and search again online for images which show CGI of the wider perspective of that elevation as marketed to room buyers, I would say the levels don't currently line up left and right (I agree they do across the right-hand part). The section on the left is a jutting part of the building. At least there is still scaffolding which might be used to finish that. The cladding on the left is in the original design and is on a recessed part of the facing. Also the brickwork on the right-hand elevation is a toothed unfinished edge rising up to the top, so doesn’t appear to be a neatly planned finish line there. I note there were scaffolders on site on April 30th when things were said to be progressing. Perhaps there is enough space for the large scissor-lifts to be used on the right.
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Post by SteveT on May 13, 2018 15:41:44 GMT
Clearly the external treatment has been amended since that CGI was made. The brickwork is neatly finished to precisely the same level as on the left-hand side of the building, where the cladding above is already installed. I'd like to believe that explanation, but if you look more closely at the photos above (enlarge), and search again online for images which show CGI of the wider perspective of that elevation as marketed to room buyers, I would say the levels don't currently line up left and right (I agree they do across the right-hand part). The section on the left is a jutting part of the building. At least there is still scaffolding which might be used to finish that. The cladding on the left is in the original design and is on a recessed part of the facing. Also the brickwork on the right-hand elevation is a toothed unfinished edge rising up to the top, so doesn’t appear to be a neatly planned finish line there. I note there were scaffolders on site on April 30th when things were said to be progressing. Perhaps there is enough space for the large scissor-lifts to be used on the right. The cladding panels sit outside the brickwork, overlapping slightly (see other pictures further up this thread), so the "toothed" edge you mention is just a quick way of finishing on the vertical, without bothering cutting needless half bricks. No brickie would leave an edge like that if they were going to have to lay further bricks off it later (let alone from a scissor lift 4 floors up)!
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Post by metoo on May 13, 2018 17:00:54 GMT
I'm sure the upper part will be clad, above the bricks Removed of the scaffolding on that part could mean you’re right. However, the approved planning drawing has brick facing there. I couldn’t spot any planning amendments so far. Wouldn't a change like that require approval? It would possibly look odd too.
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Post by SteveT on May 13, 2018 17:08:16 GMT
Probably, although non-material amendments often go through pretty much on the nod
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Post by in2tense on May 14, 2018 11:31:59 GMT
I don't know if the site is normally closed at weekends so I guess we either wait and see if there's activity next time in2tense passes by on a week day, I can confirm that workmen were on site today
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Post by withnell on May 14, 2018 12:36:13 GMT
May well be from the carpark site on Lendy, isn't that the same borrower? There was a drawdown on that as WC for other projects
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