dermot
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Post by dermot on Jun 3, 2017 10:40:59 GMT
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Post by elephantrosie on Jun 4, 2017 11:14:25 GMT
on the contrary, i have a lot of confidence in student properties, knowing the uk market.
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Post by uown on Jun 5, 2017 14:23:28 GMT
Just to add in that as with anything, quality assets will always hold their own.
Student property has been consistently one of the best performing real estate asset classes for the last decade.
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Post by mikeh on Jun 5, 2017 16:19:02 GMT
I'm not worried about the student property market per se either. I think the disquiet is mainly about planning issues. Oxford is a special case where something like 1 in 4 adults are full time students. Education is its main "industry". The problem is, on one hand, families in residential areas don't really want to live next door to a house full of students but, on the other hand, planners don't want to create "ghettos" of students either.
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Post by rick24 on Jun 5, 2017 19:09:58 GMT
You might want to consider the effect of post-Brexit policies on the numbers of foreign students. They may go down, thereby reducing the demand for accommodation.
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Post by hazellend on Jun 5, 2017 19:19:43 GMT
You might want to consider the effect of post-Brexit policies on the numbers of foreign students. They may go down, thereby reducing the demand for accommodation. May go down, may go up. Nobody knows, just keep on investing and stay diversified everybody!
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Post by jlend on Jun 5, 2017 19:43:00 GMT
There are some big players in the market I have corporate bonds issued directly by Unite Group that you can trade on the London Stock Exchange ORB market www.unitestudents.comPay 6.125%, bought them when they were first issued - will probably hold them till term They are trading at 109p (were issued at 100p) - so the market thinks it's still strong in general |
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gibmike
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Post by gibmike on Jun 5, 2017 19:49:10 GMT
I have had an investment in Empiric Student Property: www.empiric.co.uk/Pays me about 6% dividend per annum plus a small capital growth.
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Post by elephantrosie on Jun 6, 2017 1:00:46 GMT
investing in students properties can never go wrong. albeit the returns may not be high.
students properties are my favourite investment.
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Post by uown on Jun 6, 2017 12:01:57 GMT
We agree, which is why currently all the houses on our platform are student properties in Leeds, and university city with over 60,000 students.
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rick24
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Post by rick24 on Jun 6, 2017 14:41:25 GMT
investing in students properties can never go wrong. albeit the returns may not be high. students properties are my favourite investment. Never say 'never'
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Post by moogman on Jun 8, 2017 7:03:32 GMT
I struggle to see how the profitability calculations work, given the rental premium compared to more standard student HMOs. For example, Swansea is 688pm vs 325pm and Cardiff is 700pm vs 375pm - That's a HUGE premium to pay for "newness", and the few other perks that can come with it (sometimes concierge, gym, etc).
The only way I've been able to make the development calculations work, is when the developer sells off to other investors. And indeed, that's what seems to be happening - Sell leasehold to investors, "guaranteed income" for a few years, slap on sky high service charges.
The only way I can see things changing, is if regulatory changes happen restricting standard student HMO accommodation - Still, who's going to pay a 2x premium?
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Post by dan1 on Jul 13, 2017 9:15:06 GMT
I have had an investment in Empiric Student Property: www.empiric.co.uk/Pays me about 6% dividend per annum plus a small capital growth. I became aware of Empiric because they're raising funds through an 'Offer for Subscription' on the investment platform I use www.jarvisim.co.uk. Empiric Student Property (ticker ESP) is listed on the FTSE All-Share as is GCP Student Living (ticker DIGS - I kid you not!). I tried to look at the historic performance compared to the FTSE EPRA/NAREIT UK Index on Google Finance but the history only goes back a week. Perhaps some of you share buffs can interpret these REITs for information that may be relevant for us mere P2P mortals?
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 13, 2017 10:28:56 GMT
I have had an investment in Empiric Student Property: www.empiric.co.uk/Pays me about 6% dividend per annum plus a small capital growth. I became aware of Empiric because they're raising funds through an 'Offer for Subscription' on the investment platform I use www.jarvisim.co.uk. Empiric Student Property (ticker ESP) is listed on the FTSE All-Share as is GCP Student Living (ticker DIGS - I kid you not!). I tried to look at the historic performance compared to the FTSE EPRA/NAREIT UK Index on Google Finance but the history only goes back a week. Perhaps some of you share buffs can interpret these REITs for information that may be relevant for us mere P2P mortals? Dont forget the big one Unite, (UTG) FTSE 250 which has risen steadily over last 6m. RNS show they are quite dynamic in the market, with several acquistions & disposals of projects and at least two under construction in Brum/Sheff.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Aug 10, 2017 15:15:33 GMT
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