stub8535
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Post by stub8535 on Oct 30, 2017 15:03:07 GMT
I have had my eyes opened about the planning process by watching this show today for the first time.
Some disgraceful bullying behaviour by councillors to get re elected rather than consideration of the development impact. It was courageous filming and editing that shows how easy minority communities can bring influence through elections of that community as councillors.
I was left disgusted by the way the two minorities representatives forced a vote without allowing discussion and one, the chairwoman, spoke across many objectors rather than listening or allowing time.
Another case where citizens pushed for only brown field development and the rejection of all other applications on the agenda for the village of Tatton. Community action can be a strong influence so it pays to get them onside by putting desired things into plans. In this case a new cycleway into the village which made the most influential objector change tack and support the plans. This led to unanimous acceptance after 5 years of fighting.
Another showing a dispute over a picket fence and the planner trying to convince the objector that his case was too weak to win.
I have more insight into the process that borrowers must go through now. It may explain some of the situations where we have been asked for a loan to get planning permission sorted and it going past its end date.
I recommend this show for viewing.
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stub8535
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Post by stub8535 on Oct 30, 2017 22:36:46 GMT
I have had my eyes opened about the planning process by watching this show today for the first time. Some disgraceful bullying behaviour by councillors to get re elected rather than consideration of the development impact. It was courageous filming and editing that shows how easy minority communities can bring influence through elections of that community as councillors. I was left disgusted by the way the two minorities representatives forced a vote without allowing discussion and one, the chairwoman, spoke across many objectors rather than listening or allowing time. Another case where citizens pushed for only brown field development and the rejection of all other applications on the agenda for the village of Tatton. Community action can be a strong influence so it pays to get them onside by putting desired things into plans. In this case a new cycleway into the village which made the most influential objector change tack and support the plans. This led to unanimous acceptance after 5 years of fighting. Another showing a dispute over a picket fence and the planner trying to convince the objector that his case was too weak to win. I have more insight into the process that borrowers must go through now. It may explain some of the situations where we have been asked for a loan to get planning permission sorted and it going past its end date. I recommend this show for viewing. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01qrt24 If you have iPlayer and an hour, enjoy.
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markr
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Post by markr on Nov 1, 2017 11:20:52 GMT
I watched this the first time around, mainly because one programme covered a development in Winsford that was on my parents doorstep and they were involved in objecting to it. I think in the programme, the plans were rejected but the decision was overturned on appeal and the houses are now built.
In Tattenhall (not Tatton), the brownfield site is still a brownfield site and there is no footpath on Tattenhall Road, but at least 2 of the greenfield sites have developments well under way. The Google maps aerial view of this area were updated earlier this year so if you search Tattenhall and look at the satellite view, what you see is pretty much current. The brownfield site is north of Tattenhall, on Tattenhall Road just before the railway line and opposite the salvage yard. One of the greenfield sites is on Frog Lane, the other on the North West edge of the village itself.
In the fence case, I think the planner was very tactfully trying to tell the objector that his objection was without merit; once it was pointed out that the covenant didn't prohibit fences, just fences without permission, his objection just became an appeal to the fallacy of the slippery slope. Planners can't refuse permission based on what someone else may or may not do.
I had least sympathy for the truck bloke. He must have known, or at least suspected, that his shed would need permission but decided he was above the law and built it anyway, then played the victim when he had to submit a retrospective application.
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Post by registerme on Nov 16, 2017 1:07:29 GMT
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