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Post by elephantrosie on Nov 8, 2017 0:57:34 GMT
The epidemic entrance of new investors?
Or sudden surge of confidence among old investors?
I know it is multifactorial, but what was the main cause? *curious*
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Post by wildlife2 on Nov 8, 2017 1:15:12 GMT
I think it's due to the end of summer time and clocks going back.
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Post by elliotn on Nov 8, 2017 4:56:52 GMT
The epidemic entrance of new investors? Or sudden surge of confidence among old investors? I know it is multifactorial, but what was the main cause? *curious* This has been answered on the existing SM thread (you can ask the mods to move this there). The investor you said had a golden spoon in their mouth took out the Liverpool loan in nearly one bite. This left investors with funds and confidence restored. (Two massive payments on Ly will not hurt and there have been no defaults for a week or two).
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Post by gustapher on Nov 8, 2017 7:17:44 GMT
Would love to know if all the people calling for the end of liquidity/P2P (and who probably cost investors some good opportunities) are going to come on here an admit they were wrong.
Twice in the last 6 months we've had big gluts, big opportunities and lots of panic only for it to resolve itself.
“Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful"
― Warren Buffett
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Post by IFISAcava on Nov 8, 2017 7:32:16 GMT
Would love to know if all the people calling for the end of liquidity/P2P (and who probably cost investors some good opportunities) are going to come on here an admit they were wrong. Twice in the last 6 months we've had big gluts, big opportunities and lots of panic only for it to resolve itself. “Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful" ― Warren Buffett So now's the time to be fearful then?
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Post by dan1 on Nov 8, 2017 8:56:11 GMT
Would love to know if all the people calling for the end of liquidity/P2P (and who probably cost investors some good opportunities) are going to come on here an admit they were wrong. Twice in the last 6 months we've had big gluts, big opportunities and lots of panic only for it to resolve itself. “Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful" ― Warren Buffett \Mod hat off I know this debate has polarised the community but can we please just accept that there are differing opinions and that those are not necessarily wrong?
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Post by r00lish67 on Nov 8, 2017 10:06:20 GMT
Would love to know if all the people calling for the end of liquidity/P2P (and who probably cost investors some good opportunities) are going to come on here an admit they were wrong. Twice in the last 6 months we've had big gluts, big opportunities and lots of panic only for it to resolve itself. “Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful" ― Warren Buffett \Mod hat off I know this debate has polarised the community but can we please just accept that there are differing opinions and that those are not necessarily wrong? Totally agree. We've debated it to death recently, the current market will change no-one's views, and MT drew a neat line under it the other day. Let's leave it there for now, and re-open a Brexit thread (just kidding, mods  )
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Post by elephantrosie on Nov 8, 2017 10:47:24 GMT
okay, brexit thread coming.... kid. i will let someone else do that.
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Post by guff on Nov 8, 2017 11:18:34 GMT
\Mod hat off I know this debate has polarised the community but can we please just accept that there are differing opinions and that those are not necessarily wrong? Totally agree. We've debated it to death recently, the current market will change no-one's views, and MT drew a neat line under it the other day. Let's leave it there for now, and re-open a Brexit thread (just kidding, mods ) You're not going to re-open the Birkenhead residential exit thread then?
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Post by gustapher on Nov 8, 2017 15:45:11 GMT
Would love to know if all the people calling for the end of liquidity/P2P (and who probably cost investors some good opportunities) are going to come on here an admit they were wrong. Twice in the last 6 months we've had big gluts, big opportunities and lots of panic only for it to resolve itself. “Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful" ― Warren Buffett \Mod hat off I know this debate has polarised the community but can we please just accept that there are differing opinions and that those are not necessarily wrong? I don't want to escalate things, but I don't really see how else to word this. Yes, of course, opinions are not always necessarily wrong. However in this case those opinions have, with the benefit of hindsight, actually been proven to be wrong. This is important for investors to be aware of if the same people come back on in three months time and express identical opinions the next time the SM builds up.
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Post by gustapher on Nov 8, 2017 15:47:38 GMT
Would love to know if all the people calling for the end of liquidity/P2P (and who probably cost investors some good opportunities) are going to come on here an admit they were wrong. Twice in the last 6 months we've had big gluts, big opportunities and lots of panic only for it to resolve itself. “Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful" ― Warren Buffett So now's the time to be fearful then? It's an opportunity to sell for sure. The fear/greed thing wasn't meant literally.
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Post by ali on Nov 8, 2017 16:16:05 GMT
\Mod hat off I know this debate has polarised the community but can we please just accept that there are differing opinions and that those are not necessarily wrong? I don't want to escalate things, but I don't really see how else to word this. Yes, of course, opinions are not always necessarily wrong. However in this case those opinions have, with the benefit of hindsight, actually been proven to be wrong. This is important for investors to be aware of if the same people come back on in three months time and express identical opinions the next time the SM builds up. As somebody who likes the par only market at MT and voted for no change, can I point out that you are mistaken. One of the arguments for variable pricing is that a par only market tends to swing from feast to famine and finds it very difficult to be stable anywhere in between. What happened with the MT market? It went from feast to famine. If anything, I'd say those who argued for variable pricing were proved right. Of course, there are many arguments for a par only market (as there are many for variable pricing). They both have advantages and disadvantages. If you want to read all the arguments, there's a whole thread worth of posts for you to enjoy. I'm very happy with MT's market, just as I'm very happy with eg., Funding Secure's variable priced market. They both work well for me for different reasons.
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Post by archie on Nov 8, 2017 16:20:56 GMT
One reason there's little on the sm is the lack of any new loans. There's always activity when there is.
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Post by Steerpike on Nov 8, 2017 19:45:58 GMT
Excellent, the drought is over, at last there are some quality loans to buy on the SM!
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Post by elephantrosie on Nov 8, 2017 21:06:49 GMT
\Mod hat off I know this debate has polarised the community but can we please just accept that there are differing opinions and that those are not necessarily wrong? I don't want to escalate things, but I don't really see how else to word this. Yes, of course, opinions are not always necessarily wrong. However in this case those opinions have, with the benefit of hindsight, actually been proven to be wrong. This is important for investors to be aware of if the same people come back on in three months time and express identical opinions the next time the SM builds up. i agree.
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