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Post by GSV3MIaC on Nov 15, 2017 16:14:13 GMT
Really? A quick scout round the premises here has so far failed to turn up any mods in ABLRate's Pro Club, but if you know different, please feel free to name them (by PM if you like) - ideally (for purposes of forum clarity) we'd like them to be badged as such, just as members of DDC are spelled out. Are the Mods and Admins obliged to tell you - or just generally disclose it - if they were? (I'm presuming you also asked admins? If not ... ) Maybe the platform has asked that, as it is in its' embryonic stages, membership of ABL's 'pre-launch vetting function' (and - shock! horror! - potentially similar setups on other platforms) isn't disclosed, in which case you may have gotten a discrete, white-lie of a negative answer from those you asked? Nobody is obliged to tell me/us, no (like certain other activities), however stevio apparently believed it enough to post it (so either he's half-blown the secret, or there really isn't one to blow). I should add that the 'we'd like then badged' was my thought on the matter, and is subject to discussion by the team .. I suspect it would really depend on what the relationship between 'Pro Club' and ABLRate actually is. Maybe we should ask the audience .. my opinion is that an 'opinion' posted by a Pro-club member might be read differently to an opinion from Joe Public, but maybe that's not the case.
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Nov 15, 2017 16:41:08 GMT
Are the Mods and Admins obliged to tell you - or just generally disclose it - if they were? (I'm presuming you also asked admins? If not ... ) Maybe the platform has asked that, as it is in its' embryonic stages, membership of ABL's 'pre-launch vetting function' (and - shock! horror! - potentially similar setups on other platforms) isn't disclosed, in which case you may have gotten a discrete, white-lie of a negative answer from those you asked? Nobody is obliged to tell me/us, no (like certain other activities), however stevio apparently believed it enough to post it (so either he's half-blown the secret, or there really isn't one to blow). I should add that the 'we'd like then badged' was my thought on the matter, and is subject to discussion by the team .. I suspect it would really depend on what the relationship between 'Pro Club' and ABLRate actually is. Maybe we should ask the audience .. my opinion is that an 'opinion' posted by a Pro-club member might be read differently to an opinion from Joe Public, but maybe that's not the case. I agree 100%ish, lets 'ask the audience'. Personally I am more a kibitzer than spectator, so will suggest the first thing to do is establish the criteria for being a member of the audience. I would suggest a 100 post minimum with other strings attached as is deemed necessary by others.
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Post by jonah on Nov 15, 2017 17:30:02 GMT
... if you know different, please feel free to name them (by PM if you like) - ideally (for purposes of forum clarity) we'd like them to be badged as such, just as members of DDC are spelled out. Whilst we're at it, lets badge a few users who use scripts for their own personal, financial gain. I do this. Oh wait, you said personal gain... darn it, I use them for public graphs. So no badge for me. For completeness, I’m a lender on Ablrate, wasn’t in this loan, had thought about putting cash into the 12% but definitely not the 15%. I’m not in any proclub, chess club or bridge club. Anything else you want to know?
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Post by wildlife2 on Nov 15, 2017 17:33:10 GMT
I thought the Pro-Club members were the golfing group pals
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Post by stevio on Nov 15, 2017 17:47:45 GMT
Are the Mods and Admins obliged to tell you - or just generally disclose it - if they were? (I'm presuming you also asked admins? If not ... ) Maybe the platform has asked that, as it is in its' embryonic stages, membership of ABL's 'pre-launch vetting function' (and - shock! horror! - potentially similar setups on other platforms) isn't disclosed, in which case you may have gotten a discrete, white-lie of a negative answer from those you asked? Nobody is obliged to tell me/us, no (like certain other activities), however stevio apparently believed it enough to post it (so either he's half-blown the secret, or there really isn't one to blow). I should add that the 'we'd like then badged' was my thought on the matter, and is subject to discussion by the team .. I suspect it would really depend on what the relationship between 'Pro Club' and ABLRate actually is. Maybe we should ask the audience .. my opinion is that an 'opinion' posted by a Pro-club member might be read differently to an opinion from Joe Public, but maybe that's not the case. Believed what? That groups created to help, shouldn't be victimised and "outed", yes then We have already seen disdain for BHs on this forum, should they have a "badge" as well? Or maybe if you have multiple accounts on a platform and can place multiple bids? Maybe those with bots? Maybe political party? Age? Sexual orientation? Race? "Badging" of a certain groups has been outlawed in civilised society and "badging" has even led to wars Taken to the extreme, yes, but your "badging" idea leads to a "them and us" society and negative feeling on both sides It maybe that a platform has asked for discretion in this focus group, after all a focus group including "everyone" is just not efficient. This forum itself formed a similar DD focus group with a similar restriction on members. Is this maybe were the disdain comes from? that this forum feels it has to be consulted before any group can dare to be formed, less they be "badged" as such and "outed" on this forum? I definitely believe creation of this "them and us" will put AB and any other platform off improving their loans in this way. Which is the biggest shame here.
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Post by peerlessperil on Nov 15, 2017 21:49:52 GMT
If the "pro-club" had prior view of the fishy loan then give me the amateurs any day. Maybe I have missed something, but I can't see any note that the loan was pulled because of the borrower's history (and I would be surprised if ABL didn't already know about said history, or hadn't already been mentioned by at least one member of the "proclub") It could have been said history that had the loan pulled - it could have also been the fact that the Maiden name of the supposed ex-partner was included in the borrowers business name (that seems to have slipped the attention of most here) Who knows and who cares - kudos to ABL for making the right decision By "fishy" I was referring to the fishing boat/fishing licence loan that eventually went ahead.
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 15, 2017 22:04:53 GMT
By "fishy" I was referring to the fishing boat/fishing licence loan that eventually went ahead. Baseed on your avatar, I can't decide whether you saw that particular loan as a personal threat, or simply unwanted competition.
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Post by blender on Nov 15, 2017 22:10:01 GMT
Or food.
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Post by peerlessperil on Nov 15, 2017 22:39:23 GMT
I didn't bite. The pub loan was more interesting. Porridge usually gives me indigestion, but subordinated tranches that pay down before the senior loan are sometimes worth getting your teeth into....
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Post by elliotn on Nov 16, 2017 1:40:34 GMT
Please badge those that trade/flip from their taxable to tax free accounts.
Tagging James.
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Post by rgog on Nov 16, 2017 12:06:57 GMT
Please, we seem to be getting as badge crazy as an American salesman's convention! Enough already with the badges
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Post by macq on Nov 16, 2017 13:01:26 GMT
Please, we seem to be getting as badge crazy as an American salesman's convention! Enough already with the badges what about a badge saying you don't want a badge?
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Post by rgog on Nov 16, 2017 13:39:10 GMT
Please, we seem to be getting as badge crazy as an American salesman's convention! Enough already with the badges what about a badge saying you don't want a badge? Groan, I give in
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Post by macq on Nov 16, 2017 14:55:47 GMT
what about a badge saying you don't want a badge? Groan, I give in Sorry
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