carolus
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Post by carolus on Mar 31, 2019 12:40:13 GMT
As for TIG - they're currently (publically) taking a pretty aggressive stance towards LDs e.g. repeatedly claiming they want to replace LDs, and expect to be the major party in any electoral agreement. Historically votes have attached to the party not the candidate, so it will be interesting to see how manyTIG's survive an election (personally, can't see it being a lot).
I guess the nightmare scenario would be (for instance) if Chuka's support was split with the next official Labour candidate and this let in a third party. Yes, I agree, although I'd be more worried about splitting votes with LD since I think they both have a similar target voter set. However, I think they're in a lot of trouble if a GE comes soon, which makes their seeming hubris towards LDs whose support they'll certainly need appear a little foolish. At the end of the day it's hard to see how more than a couple have any prospect at all of holding on.
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Post by captainconfident on Mar 31, 2019 12:52:28 GMT
I admire their risking their careers by leaving the established parties, but I won't lament their losing their seats because I didn't hear them advocating reforming the electoral system when they were members of the two parties who benefit from it.
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Post by travolta on Mar 31, 2019 19:52:54 GMT
'Independent' and 'Party' cancel each other out . What qualifies ANYONE to be an MP?
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Post by carolus on Mar 31, 2019 20:01:17 GMT
'Independent' and 'Party' cancel each other out . What qualifies ANYONE to be an MP? So it's a good job that the proposed party name, "Change UK", doesn't include the word "independent" then.
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Post by ilmoro on Mar 31, 2019 20:05:46 GMT
'Independent' and 'Party' cancel each other out . What qualifies ANYONE to be an MP? So it's a good job that the proposed party name, "Change UK", doesn't include the word "independent" then. Except that the party name is Change UK - The Independent Group
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Post by travolta on Mar 31, 2019 20:07:44 GMT
So it's a good job that the proposed party name, "Change UK", doesn't include the word "independent" then. Except that the party name is Change UK - The Independent Group hmm.... CUKTIG
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Post by df on Mar 31, 2019 20:14:34 GMT
'Independent' and 'Party' cancel each other out . What qualifies ANYONE to be an MP? Majority of votes.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Mar 31, 2019 20:28:46 GMT
'Independent' and 'Party' cancel each other out . What qualifies ANYONE to be an MP? Majority of votes. Actually no, more votes than the next candidate, a majority of votes isnt required. Otherwise we would be deprived of the wisdom of Anna Soubry & Zac Goldsmith amongst multiple others
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Post by martin44 on Mar 31, 2019 20:29:38 GMT
'Independent' and 'Party' cancel each other out . What qualifies ANYONE to be an MP? Majority of votes. Its a little more than that, you cannot be independent and a party politician .. "Authorisation is required to stand for a specific party, otherwise candidates will be described as independent or have no description." www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/members/electing-mps/candidates/
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Post by IFISAcava on Mar 31, 2019 20:30:09 GMT
'Independent' and 'Party' cancel each other out . What qualifies ANYONE to be an MP? Majority of votes. Plurality rather than majority is enough under FPTP - AV would ensure an elected MP had a majority (>50% of votes).
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Post by mrclondon on Mar 31, 2019 20:40:20 GMT
Off topic, but some what relevant is this week's byelection in Newport West, as it may give pointers to the future viability of a pro-EU party ... amongst the 11 candidates is one for "Renew". In theory a safe Labour seat, albeit 56% Leave in 2016.
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Post by martin44 on Mar 31, 2019 20:51:45 GMT
Off topic, but some what relevant is this week's byelection in Newport West, as it may give pointers to the future viability of a pro-EU party ... amongst the 11 candidates is one for "Renew". In theory a safe Labour seat, albeit 56% Leave in 2016.
I'm not sure this can be qualified as "off topic" edit..Indeed this party are advocating "Renew will continue to work to ensure that the UK remains part of the EU and that currently means securing a new public vote so the people can provide informed consent to the question of the UK’s continued membership of the EU." is this not the ad vocation of the independence group?
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