m2btj
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Post by m2btj on Jul 16, 2021 11:34:56 GMT
I've just tried to collect some bags of cement from Wickes, to complete a small building project. Not a single bag in their huge warehouse style store. The manager informed me they've been out of stock for almost four months, owing to a global shortage. It would appear that cement & other building materials are facing severe supply issues.
Not sure if this bodes well for some P2P development projects.
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Post by archie on Jul 16, 2021 12:02:07 GMT
I've just tried to collect some bags of cement from Wickes, to complete a small building project. Not a single bag in their huge warehouse style store. The manager informed me they've been out of stock for almost four months, owing to a global shortage. It would appear that cement & other building materials are facing severe supply issues. Not sure if this bodes well for some P2P development projects. Found this article :- Construction materials shortage
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Post by michaelc on Jul 16, 2021 12:26:16 GMT
That's an old link but it does seem pretty serious and I wonder what the consequences are likely to be.
As with the plaster drought last year, there are plenty of ebay sellers cashing in and selling at large profit.
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Post by james100 on Jul 16, 2021 12:33:13 GMT
I've just tried to collect some bags of cement from Wickes, to complete a small building project. Not a single bag in their huge warehouse style store. The manager informed me they've been out of stock for almost four months, owing to a global shortage. It would appear that cement & other building materials are facing severe supply issues. Not sure if this bodes well for some P2P development projects. Yes, it's been this way for a while now. There is definitely some out there if you don't need much but you may need to work to find it. I understand people are sharing their sources in hushed tones behind timber yards and the like (got some about 10 days ago). Prices for timber and concrete are through the roof right now; I was looking to cost out a big project and am postponing until things ease up. Had not considered the impact on p2p!
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Post by p2pfan on Jul 16, 2021 12:58:09 GMT
It's undoubtedly a real issue, but...
... P2P networks and their beloved lenders must be licking their lips at this cement shortage. Following on from the excuses they have spent the last few years making of blaming everything on Brexit and COVID, they will now spend the next two years rabbiting on about Cementgate and Timbergate as the reasons for them not giving lenders their money back.
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Post by adrianc on Jul 16, 2021 14:57:41 GMT
Following on from the excuses they have spent the last few years making of blaming everything on Brexit and COVID, they will now spend the next two years rabbiting on about Cementgate and Timbergate... I wonder if other European countries are having the same issues?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 11:56:22 GMT
Perhaps it is time to move to non-cementatious concrete
seems to work fine. When shops whinge, just ask them for the proper stuff.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Jul 17, 2021 12:25:59 GMT
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Jul 17, 2021 12:34:19 GMT
Perhaps it is time to move to non-cementatious concrete
seems to work fine. When shops whinge, just ask them for the proper stuff.
Interesting. I hadn't heard about that... and I need 20 bags of postcrete next weekend...
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Jul 17, 2021 12:35:38 GMT
Cement prices up 10%, timber 20%. So nowhere near as much as here, allegedly. HS2 is getting a lot of blame for absorbing shedloads of supply.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Jul 17, 2021 13:30:28 GMT
Cement prices up 10%, timber 20%. So nowhere near as much as here, allegedly. HS2 is getting a lot of blame for absorbing shedloads of supply. Cement up 10% in a single month. Also product shortages.
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Post by corto on Jul 17, 2021 14:04:43 GMT
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Jul 17, 2021 14:43:49 GMT
Cement prices up 10%, timber 20%. So nowhere near as much as here, allegedly. HS2 is getting a lot of blame for absorbing shedloads of supply. Cement up 10% in a single month. Also product shortages. Indeed, in a month. But how much here...? BTW, I was told by our tree surgeon the other day that our local sawmills are standing people down, because they can't get the trees to process...
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Post by wildlife2 on Jul 17, 2021 15:43:07 GMT
What was used before cement was invented? cow dung and straw?  All the trees must have been used up to make toilet rolls with the panic buying last year if there is a shortage of timber now.
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Post by adrianc on Jul 17, 2021 16:00:19 GMT
What was used before cement was invented? cow dung and straw? Yes, pretty much... It was the Romans who first used it, after all.
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