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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 15:28:29 GMT
Yes sorry, Net Asset Value (NAV)
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Post by drgonzo on Sept 8, 2021 23:23:10 GMT
If you bought TRIG at the next funding round it would cost you about 110p and you would earn roughly 5% dividend (probably/possibly). You do the maths. You're probably already aware, but for anyone else considering buying into TRIG soon, a new funding round was announced last Tuesday @ 124p, which closes next Tuesday (14/9)... the share price has been gradually dropping to that level over the past few days.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 8:19:08 GMT
Good news then, I know that a number of us on another channel have been lobbying the company to do away with the "half" position so it looks like the message finally got through.
No I had missed the RNS but my hardly surprising as my information portal has had an RNS problem over the last 10 days or so so thank you for the update.
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Sept 16, 2021 18:48:54 GMT
Ripple Energy are promoting their second wind farm, plus a Seedr Convertible fund raising round.
Anyone invested in the first one? Any experiences are their processes to date? I gather the first farm isn't yet live.
Does giving them £4K over the next 12 months to get £7.4K back in electricity bill discounts over the next 20 years ever make economic sense?
I guess a lot depends on assumptions over future electricity prices?
Yes, I know some of us don't have a great experience with Wind turbines...
£4000 implies you have pretty humongous power usage. at £1500 for 900 Watts that's 2400 Watts for £4000 or 7800 kWh divided by 1.2 is 6500 kWh a year of usage. part of the existing turbine is now on site they are expecting generation to start in November I've got Solar already and looking at this as complementary, Over the last year I've been paid on average a little over 10P per kWh for solar so I'd anticipate a return of 6P on this allowing for costs so for £1500 I'd get back 2900 * 6p or £175 so a pretty good ROI
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Post by dead-money on Sept 16, 2021 19:13:25 GMT
Yeah, It's actually over 7500 Kwh per year for elec. Honestly, doesnt seem that bad for a large family house with both of us working from home full time.
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Post by stevepn on Sept 18, 2021 10:38:01 GMT
I would avoid wind farm shares like the plague. The only thing keeping the green nonsense going is government subsidies.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 13:16:35 GMT
Certainly around Europe most new wind farms are now operating on open market energy prices without subsidy while of course coal, oil and continues to get substantial subsidies. However, it is true that some of the older smaller land-based wind farms are going to have price problems when their fixed tarifs run out. This is normally priced in. However, like all things, don't get suckered into buying worn out equipment at brand new prices. This is especially true of so called "stranded assets" which include an awful lot of oil and gas in the North Sea which is still being valued by companies there.
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Post by registerme on Sept 19, 2021 0:59:26 GMT
I would avoid wind farm shares like the plague. The only thing keeping the green nonsense going is government subsidies.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 10:58:39 GMT
I spent a happy hour this morning writing to the Investor teams at a bunch of companies that have yet to sign up to Paris asking when they will have a target. Still some very interesting companies out there like Microsoft that are aiming to go net zero for the entire life of the company.
So doable if only they would all pull their fingers out.
I will be asking my IFA on Tuesday what his target is....
While the map above is dispiriting this is a bit more chearful, certainly nicer colours
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Dec 18, 2022 11:26:06 GMT
For information for those who did buy in and those that didn't see it.
Graig Fatha ( farm 1 ) is up and running
Kirk Hill is progressing
SEEDRS was massively oversubscribed
Graig Fatha has agreed a price that will return 27p per kWh of generation to "owners" from March for 12 Months, the figure they used to sell Kirk Hill was 6.4p, giving me a profit after 9.5 years so 27p would be a massive increase
I'm not in that one but using my figures from Kirk Hill
I paid for 1.23 kW, £2280 expected generation is 3900kWh per year at 27p I would get £1,053 back per year or 2 years and 3 months to recover investment leaving 22 year and 9 month to be profit.
one interesting comment from Ripple was that as Kirk Hill is bigger ie produces more power they may be able to sell at a premium !
Someone who is a Graig Fatha member has calculated using the 27p that in the 267 days it has been producing he would have had a return of £500 on a £2,100 investment, with of course the windiest bit of the year to come. based on figures so far he would get back 6 times his initial investment over 20 years and 8 times over 25.
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