registerme
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Post by registerme on Mar 31, 2022 11:07:16 GMT
because prices are going to rocket tomorrow. Yup, EDF's site is down for maintenance. I can't login into So Energy's site. Nobody is answering the phone.
This is rather annoying.
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Post by rocky1 on Mar 31, 2022 11:32:40 GMT
Eon energy also happens to be having technical problems at the moment.try again later.
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Post by mogish on Mar 31, 2022 11:36:18 GMT
Oh yes , MSE advised this. Im with bulb on a smart meter...does that mean I can be lazy as the meter will be in real time?
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Post by overthehill on Mar 31, 2022 11:44:04 GMT
because prices are going to rocket tomorrow. Yup, EDF's site is down for maintenance. I can't login into So Energy's site. Nobody is answering the phone. This is rather annoying.
Depends on your bill/payment date as well, they might not even use readings entered today.
If their 1apr gas/elec reading estimates are higher than the actual readings then you will pay less.
If their 1apr gas/elec reading estimates are lower than the actual readings then you will pay more.
Entering readings now which are higher than the real figures means you will pay less. Not sure if the companies plan to take action or just ignore it. A lot of people will be putting in false readings. I didn't bother but it makes sense financially.
Of course smart meters makes sense now for the utility companies not the consumers ! Just resist the constant pestering and tell them you're not a moron who can't do arithmetic!
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Post by archie on Mar 31, 2022 11:44:31 GMT
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registerme
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Post by registerme on Mar 31, 2022 11:51:59 GMT
Entering readings now which are higher than the real figures means you will pay less. Not sure if the companies plan to take action or just ignore it. A lot of people will be putting in false readings. I didn't bother but it makes sense financially. Also known as fraud.
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Post by overthehill on Mar 31, 2022 11:59:18 GMT
Entering readings now which are higher than the real figures means you will pay less. Not sure if the companies plan to take action or just ignore it. A lot of people will be putting in false readings. I didn't bother but it makes sense financially. Also known as fraud. Is it ? Are you sure about that. Entering lower figures is closer to fraud.
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Post by registerme on Mar 31, 2022 12:08:57 GMT
Is it ? Are you sure about that. Entering lower figures is closer to fraud. Well I'm not a lawyer, or a policeman, but fraud is "deceit, trickery specifically: intentional perversion of truth in order to indce another to part with some of value etc". I would think that falsely inflating your consumption of something so as to forward pay at a lower rate would qualify.
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Post by keitha on Mar 31, 2022 12:26:33 GMT
LoL why would you enter a lower figure as at some point it will catch up and you will pay more for it than by being truthful.
Im With Octopus, and got a gas reading straight in
Electric is Smart meter ( Well they both are but Gas meter wont talk to electric meter across a room ), and I use Octopus watch and my readings are up to date
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Post by overthehill on Mar 31, 2022 13:31:26 GMT
Is it ? Are you sure about that. Entering lower figures is closer to fraud. Well I'm not a lawyer, or a policeman, but fraud is "deceit, trickery specifically: intentional perversion of truth in order to indce another to part with some of value etc". I would think that falsely inflating your consumption of something so as to forward pay at a lower rate would qualify.
I would be worried if the government, current laws and the various enforcement and prosecution services acknowledged serious financial fraud even as a real crime to start with based on actions and results. We know that is not the case and the effort and resources are pitiful. I've just had 3 people or criminal organisiations trying to defraud me via email in the last hour. We've seen on here how hard and time consuming it is to get any justice for financial fraud, and that is if you have money, if you don't have money forget it.
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Post by adrianc on Mar 31, 2022 13:40:09 GMT
because prices are going to rocket tomorrow. Yup, EDF's site is down for maintenance. I can't login into So Energy's site. Nobody is answering the phone. This is rather annoying. R4 had a passing Octopus on earlier, discussing exactly this. They are inundated with readings today - 40k/hour, where normally they would get about 1k/hr. Most suppliers will allow readings to be submitted a few days later, with the date of the reading given - so you can submit on Monday but state that the reading was today. Also, if it is a bit later, then the reading will be strictly pro-rata'd either side of the price change. The only time it's really likely to be any difference at all is if you've been going off lower-than-actual estimates for a while.
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Post by agent69 on Mar 31, 2022 13:55:56 GMT
I guess this is the risk the suppliers take when they do away with meter readers.
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 31, 2022 14:01:55 GMT
because prices are going to rocket tomorrow. Yup, EDF's site is down for maintenance. I can't login into So Energy's site. Nobody is answering the phone. This is rather annoying. It might not actually be down for maintenance - it may have just ended up overloaded and 'down for maintainence is just the default unavailable status.
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 31, 2022 14:04:47 GMT
I'm struggling to understand why one would feel a need to submit readings if you have a smart meter. I mean, if the supplier didn't use the actual figures that will be available at the actual time of tariff changeover then that would definitely be fraud.
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 31, 2022 14:06:01 GMT
I guess this is the risk the suppliers take when they do away with meter readers. They haven't done away with meter readers: they have just distributed the work to millions of independently employed meter readers.
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