zuluwarrior
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Post by zuluwarrior on May 13, 2022 10:06:30 GMT
Curious to know what the consensus is on this, do you do P2P purely for financial gain or do you enjoy 'playing the banker' and loaning money on various different projects, properties etc?
I'm a bit of both, I do prefer to use P2P sites with a cleaner user interface which makes it all seem more fun. A nice picture and I'm sold!
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Post by Ace on May 13, 2022 10:21:15 GMT
I'm firmly in both camps.
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Post by overthehill on May 13, 2022 10:49:26 GMT
Curious to know what the consensus is on this, do you do P2P purely for financial gain or do you enjoy 'playing the banker' and loaning money on various different projects, properties etc? I'm a bit of both, I do prefer to use P2P sites with a cleaner user interface which makes it all seem more fun. A nice picture and I'm sold!
Both. Greedy banks and other such lenders paying miniscule interest rates on savings and earning 10-15x lending it out.
P2P gives ordinary individuals access to the huge profits available on property. UK is property mad compared to other countries, people like their own castle, the valuations are a joke because of lack of supply and a growing population bolstered by immigration, people are still flooding to this country through choice and who can blame them despite the tabloid headlines.
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ilmoro
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'Wondering which of the bu***rs to blame, and watching for pigs on the wing.' - Pink Floyd
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Post by ilmoro on May 13, 2022 11:23:53 GMT
Not sure I use the word fun, but I do find it interesting - both the finance stuff & the unexpected legal stuff.
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hazellend
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Post by hazellend on May 13, 2022 11:27:38 GMT
No, I hate it with an enduring passion
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registerme
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Post by registerme on May 13, 2022 11:36:07 GMT
I used to find it fun. Less so nowadays.
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littleoldlady
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Post by littleoldlady on May 13, 2022 12:17:21 GMT
It is partly a hobby. If one gets no satisfaction from it then it's best left alone. For me the best loans are when it enables a person or company to create wealth. I don't get any pleasure out of making money at someone else's expense or when there is no obvious real benefit to society such as a share price increase. An example of a really satisfying loan would be one to a man who needed a car for work and would be unemployed otherwise.
Provided he pays it back.
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p2pfan
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Post by p2pfan on May 13, 2022 15:07:41 GMT
It is partly a hobby. If one gets no satisfaction from it then it's best left alone. For me the best loans are when it enables a person or company to create wealth. I don't get any pleasure out of making money at someone else's expense or when there is no obvious real benefit to society such as a share price increase. An example of a really satisfying loan would be one to a man who needed a car for work and would be unemployed otherwise.Provided he pays it back.I loaned out a very sizeable sum via Buy2LetCars to enable such individuals - nurses, school teachers etc. - to lease a new car. It comes to light from the Administrator's reports that a large ratio of the leasees didn't bother to pay their monthly fees or trashed their cars etc. "Doing good" is usually taken advantage of by the person being helped. I used to find P2P pleasurable, but not any more. The skull-duggery and the collusion of platforms with their beloved borrowers to take advantage of lenders with every excuse they can possibly conjure up ("Brexit!", "Covid!", "Ukraine!") gets one down.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2022 15:34:08 GMT
I find it interesting but no not fun. At the end of the day, it is business.
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michaelc
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Post by michaelc on May 13, 2022 16:39:37 GMT
Would rather flutter some away at a real casino. At least that way its properly regulated.
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Post by df on May 13, 2022 18:09:26 GMT
My wife described it as my "weird hobby"... I think it was quite an accurate description of my addiction to p2p
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keitha
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2024, hopefully the year I get out of P2P
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Post by keitha on May 13, 2022 18:47:54 GMT
I loaned out a very sizeable sum via Buy2LetCars to enable such individuals - nurses, school teachers etc. - to lease a new car. It comes to light from the Administrator's reports that a large ratio of the leasees didn't bother to pay their monthly fees or trashed their cars etc. "Doing good" is usually taken advantage of by the person being helped. I used to find P2P pleasurable, but not any more. The skull-duggery and the collusion of platforms with their beloved borrowers to take advantage of lenders with every excuse they can possibly conjure up ("Brexit!", "Covid!", "Ukraine!") gets one down. Interestingly there is an NHS lease car ( It says as much on it ) parked down from me it's covered in green moss / Lichen and clearly hasn't moved in at least 18 months. I had a colleague in my last position who in 3 months managed to put large dents in every panel including the roof of his lease car Another person I know took a "COVID recovery Loan" used it to buy a nice Mercedes van which he then sold to his son, then put his business into liquidation and has retired
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a0010402
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Post by a0010402 on May 13, 2022 19:54:37 GMT
Perhaps not fun, but thrilling.
Were it not for the prospect of financial gain I wouldn't be doing it. Too time-consuming.
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Post by crabbyoldgit on May 14, 2022 6:13:02 GMT
it used to be profitable fun , with a bit of two fingers to to banks after they avoided all consequences of the reckless actions in their loan policies. Also there were some really great loans that payed up every month bang on time who i was proud to support. I remember with great pleasure the thames river boat loan and some old git who used a a magic cold metal plug to make austin healy panels and stainless goldwing exhausts. Then came the scottish spy laird , its been all down hill since. Sorry its not just business , its my personal money aquired by people who move lender to lender giving each successive one a haircut and paying little or no interest during the loan. Well its all down to folk to folk now , I hope they know the full history and act promply at any dealt or change of plan. I tryed to invest with them but the minimum loan stake was to high for me. But a telephone call resulted in clear impression of should I say a distincted lack of humour arround defaulting borrowers makes me hope for a bit of payback in the future. I would not of touched a loan under 9% in the early days and inflation was 2% ish , now the floor is 5.5 % and i am loosing money before defaults as inflation is far higher than that. Trouble is what else to do, now I just try and beat the bank savings rate after losses , invested in as many reasonable loans as possible . This means its just about impossible to read all the updates and take interest in the progress of individual loans, the fun has gone. The actions of some peer to peer companies has attracted the attention of the feckless and fraudsters, who see the sector as an easy touch for free money, turning the whole thing into dangerous place to play. How did we get here , what happened to the early days when it felt at least a bit , fair to everybody and bugger the banks.
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mogish
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Post by mogish on May 16, 2022 7:30:04 GMT
Crabbyoldkit sums it up nicely.
In the early days the rates were great and thought that this was the new way forward as opposed to banks. Unfortunately poor management and risk assessment along with some dodgy characters has left some of us with a bad taste and losses.
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