mogish
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Post by mogish on Nov 7, 2022 9:41:44 GMT
In the continued search for more efficient energy use I've been looking at air fryers.
Seem a bit more efficient than heating a large oven space for smaller meals etc.
Anyone use these ? Pros and cons and any model recommendations would be appreciated.
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Post by batchoy on Nov 7, 2022 16:39:05 GMT
We did consider one but they tend to be pricey and a bit like hen's teeth at the moment, thus we decided to move our trusted halogen oven out of the camper van and to the kitchen. The difference is that Halogen ovens tend to take the same amount of cooking time as regular convection ovens but without the need to pre-heat the oven so you wont need a new recipe book where as Air fryers tend to be faster so it will be a bit of a learning curve in converting existing recipes. Halogen ovens tend to be easier to clean than air fryers but take up more room.
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Post by warn on Nov 7, 2022 17:35:49 GMT
In the continued search for more efficient energy use I've been looking at air fryers. Seem a bit more efficient than heating a large oven space for smaller meals etc. Anyone use these ? Pros and cons and any model recommendations would be appreciated. I have a Ninja Foodi mini 4.7L model OP100UK (I live alone these days, alas), and use it a lot. It cost me £170 nearly two years ago. It's a pressure cooker, fan oven, regular oven, and slow cooker all in one. It does take a bit of getting used to as far as adapting recipes is concerned, because you need to set it to a lower temp and cook for less time than all my Sainsbury ready-meal packets suggest. Having said that, I'm not sure that Ninja make the small one any more, though you might still find one at (e.g.) Argos. Depending on the number of diners, a larger (and not very much more expensive) model might be preferable for you -- they also have a "9-in-1" model than includes a grill. I don't have any experience with other manufacturers. It's well cheaper than a regular oven for anything you can't microwave.
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Post by markyg61 on Nov 7, 2022 19:34:19 GMT
We have this one although we didn't pay £200 ! Got it in a sale for about £145about 8 months ago
Missus says it's the best kitchen gadget we've ever bought.
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Post by badersleg on Nov 7, 2022 19:39:43 GMT
There's a 30 minute radio programme about them here
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Post by mogish on Nov 7, 2022 20:42:28 GMT
Thanks folks. Much appreciated. Guy at work also recommends a ninja although at £249 ,it seems quite expensive.
I need to work out what literate would suit for making meals for 2 adults.
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Post by adrianc on Nov 7, 2022 21:42:25 GMT
I wonder how long it'll take to recover the £250 investment through savings in electricity consumption...
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Post by michaelc on Nov 7, 2022 22:41:21 GMT
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Post by keitha on Nov 7, 2022 23:04:25 GMT
HMM Converting to kWh I get that at about 1.5kWh of electric and 1 kWh of gas a day for cooker, for my oven that's 2 hours use of the oven at least Air fryer 0.3 kWh a day. from figures elsewhere that 20 minutes use Slow Cooker 300 watts per day thats's bull mine uses 100W per hour Microwave 200 W per day that's about 8 minutes for my microwave hardly enough to do a jacket potato people also need to remember that the electricity in the form of heat for the oven etc helps to warm the house in the winter so the Air cooker may be quicker but the house will need more heat from elsewhere. the article also says "The impact will be far greater than any of the Government’s green initiatives ever could have achieved. Although cooking is said to account for 4% of the average energy bill, the savings speak for themselves.
Again I call BS on this article from figures within it Cooker £300 a year & cooking = 4% of bill, multiply by 25 to get average bill £7,500 a year !
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 7, 2022 23:37:13 GMT
HMM Converting to kWh I get that at about 1.5kWh of electric and 1 kWh of gas a day for cooker, for my oven that's 2 hours use of the oven at least Air fryer 0.3 kWh a day. from figures elsewhere that 20 minutes use Slow Cooker 300 watts per day thats's bull mine uses 100W per hour Microwave 200 W per day that's about 8 minutes for my microwave hardly enough to do a jacket potato people also need to remember that the electricity in the form of heat for the oven etc helps to warm the house in the winter so the Air cooker may be quicker but the house will need more heat from elsewhere. the article also says "The impact will be far greater than any of the Government’s green initiatives ever could have achieved. Although cooking is said to account for 4% of the average energy bill, the savings speak for themselves.
Again I call BS on this article from figures within it Cooker £300 a year & cooking = 4% of bill, multiply by 25 to get average bill £7,500 a year ! that article is so vaccuous its not worth the paper its not even actually written on. I mean it can't even be a**d to start the assumptions it makes to get to its 'conclusions'. There is a lot of total tripe being cut and pasted around different "media" outlets at the moment. If I was publishing that stuff I'd be embarrassed. There was one particular "article" that got cut and pasted across multiple media outlets and it was clearly just total tosh that had been unquestioningly republished. But i've also seen such lazy energy journalism repeated in the likes of the Times: that article had my blood boiling for its casual disregard to providing useful and factual information.
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Post by adrianc on Nov 8, 2022 8:30:59 GMT
Ultimately, electricity to heat is just about 100% efficient - any gains would be due to efficiency in insulation of the appliance... IF the heat lost was totally wasted. Since it's in the house, it isn't.
A quick look suggests a typical airfryer is 2.4kW, while a typical oven is 2.8kW. And, of course, any cooking appliance cycles once up to heat - ovens quote figures of around 1kWh, so about 34p/hr at the current cap. £265/yr would therefore be around 2hr 10min/day.
Our oven was on for a bit longer than that yesterday - I baked a loaf of bread in the morning, then we had sausages and roast potatoes for dinner. But it hadn't been on at all for a couple of days before that. We use it a lot, relative to other cooking methods, but I reckon the average is probably 3-4hrs/week.
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Post by keitha on Nov 8, 2022 10:47:01 GMT
Ultimately, electricity to heat is just about 100% efficient - any gains would be due to efficiency in insulation of the appliance... IF the heat lost was totally wasted. Since it's in the house, it isn't. A quick look suggests a typical airfryer is 2.4kW, while a typical oven is 2.8kW. And, of course, any cooking appliance cycles once up to heat - ovens quote figures of around 1kWh, so about 34p/hr at the current cap. £265/yr would therefore be around 2hr 10min/day. Our oven was on for a bit longer than that yesterday - I baked a loaf of bread in the morning, then we had sausages and roast potatoes for dinner. But it hadn't been on at all for a couple of days before that. We use it a lot, relative to other cooking methods, but I reckon the average is probably 3-4hrs/week. Cos I'm a geek, I know my oven once up to temp at 180 degrees uses circa 220 watts, I would suspect that loses from airfryers etc are higher, based on surface area to volume ratios. you average is a little lower than mine but I use it a lot. on a sunday I will do a roast ( if I'm here ) that's a joint, roast potato's, veg and a pudding all cooked in the one oven at the same time, at this time of year I will use spare space to cook beetroot, and the residual heat to dry tomato's. Of course I always do plenty so I have enough for Monday, just heat it in microwave I suspect that a lot of air fryer users are using them for oven chips etc
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Post by mogish on Nov 8, 2022 12:00:38 GMT
Damn predicted text. I wanted to know the suitable litreage not literate!!
Anyway some good info here and excellent real world consumption figures.
I'm in no hurry. If one comes up at a reasonable price, not 250, I might take a punt.
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