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Post by Financial Thing on Jun 17, 2015 16:12:23 GMT
Are there any overall stats on default rates? I couldn't find them on the website.
When I loan money through Mintos, who am I loaning to, Mintos the company or individuals? Not that I would expect to recoup anything if Mintos goes out of business but if it did, what would happen to my loan pieces I invested in?
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Post by martins on Jun 18, 2015 9:42:28 GMT
The stats, including on defaults, can be found here - mintos.lv/en/statistics/Investors are loaning to individuals. The contract with borrower (or more precisely the right to receive payments from the borrower) is transferred from loan originator to investor based on assignment agreement (here is a sample agreement - mintos.lv/en/doc/assignment_agreement). Thus, investors have a direct claim against borrower and that would not change in case Mintos or other loan originator that is on our platform goes out of business.
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Post by JamesFrance on Jun 18, 2015 9:58:49 GMT
It is too soon for there to be any history of default rates, as the first loans were offered to investors 6 months ago. So far Mintos has bought back the few troublesome loans including overdue interest, however there is no certainty that they would do this in future.
Every loan part you purchase is covered by a comprehensive assignment agreement which can be downloaded as a pdf file.
Presumably a new manager would be found administer the loans if anything happened to the company.
Edit: Mintos replied as I was writing this post, so some duplication.
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Post by shimself on Jun 18, 2015 18:48:56 GMT
What happens if Mintos folds? each MONTH! That's not very useful. Cloud backup constantly updated is more like it.
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Post by Financial Thing on Jun 18, 2015 22:11:39 GMT
ok, so basically if Minto's folds, we are screwed
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Post by shimself on Jun 19, 2015 11:46:12 GMT
ok, so basically if Minto's folds, we are screwed I'm sticking to mogo car loans, so that should give another avenue. Mind you mogo looks to me like a couple of junior manager types from corporates who've jumped off on their own. They have got a 20M bond funded so here's hoping they don't waste it too quickly. If only there was a way of monitoring ferrari sales in the baltic! (Mind you I haven't found a way I understand of looking at anybody's credit refs etc in the Baltic)
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Post by martins on Jun 20, 2015 12:25:07 GMT
To clear any confusion - our database is obviously backed up constantly on daily basis. The database backup we provide to FORT, one of the largest law firms in the region, is just additional measure of security to ensure that the data is there if for unforeseen circumstances data held by Mintos is not available. In the unlikely event that Mintos goes out of business the data would be crucial to successfully transfer the servicing role we perform on all outstanding loans to a third party servicer.
Also keep in mind, that Mintos and other loan originators on our platform keep 5% of each loan on their books, which gives additional incentive to have orderly administration of contracts in the event of a platform’s collapse.
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Post by shimself on Jun 20, 2015 13:17:48 GMT
To clear any confusion - our database is obviously backed up constantly on daily basis. The database backup we provide to FORT, one of the largest law firms in the region, is just additional measure of security to ensure that the data is there if for unforeseen circumstances data held by Mintos is not available. In the unlikely event that Mintos goes out of business the data would be crucial to successfully transfer the servicing role we perform on all outstanding loans to a third party servicer. Also keep in mind, that Mintos and other loan originators on our platform keep 5% of each loan on their books, which gives additional incentive to have orderly administration of contracts in the event of a platform’s collapse. I was just suggesting you gave them access to the backup (assuming it's cloud backup), because I feel data a few weeks old would be murder to reconcile. I understand and applaud your retaining a part of every loan. I live in euroland, so I'm keen to invest in you more than I have;if you and Mogo had some heavyweight directors I'd be very encouraged.
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Post by locutus on Aug 14, 2015 8:59:53 GMT
The stats, including on defaults, can be found here - mintos.lv/en/statistics/Investors are loaning to individuals. The contract with borrower (or more precisely the right to receive payments from the borrower) is transferred from loan originator to investor based on assignment agreement (here is a sample agreement - mintos.lv/en/doc/assignment_agreement). Thus, investors have a direct claim against borrower and that would not change in case Mintos or other loan originator that is on our platform goes out of business. Is there an updated statistics page? That one 404s.
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Post by JamesFrance on Aug 14, 2015 9:26:36 GMT
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Post by red_panda on Nov 19, 2015 19:52:47 GMT
Anyone knows or Martins can shed light to the processes behind 60+ loans with a collateral? How quickly would a collateral be collected / sold and relevant principal + interest be paid out? What information is shared with the loan part owners during the process? I already see number of 60+ loans in the loan book, where one has received only partial payments for the past 6 months.
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Post by martins on Nov 24, 2015 17:36:23 GMT
red_panda The mortgage loans are originated by our group company Hipocredit (previously Mintos, but we rebranded it to avoid confusion with the Mintos platform - financenet.tvnet.lv/zinas/585330-nebanku_kreditdevejs_mintos_maina_nosaukumu_pret_hipocredit). A standard bailiff process is pretty straightforward. Hipocredit files a claim and goes through a court to get receiving order for auction. Depending on a case it might take from 3 months to 1 year (for more complicated cases) from filing a claim to the first auction. However, so far Hipocredit has been using only a special notary form agreement with all borrowers that, in case of delinquency, allows them to go straight to notary to obtain receiving order and initiate auction. Here the process from claim to the first auction would take about 1 month. To date there only a very few cases where loans were 60+ days late. In most of the cases Hipocredit has agreed with the borrower on the schedule to bring the loan back to the current status. Only in one case the bailiff process was initiated (by other creditor not by Hipocredit though, the borrower was making payment to Hipocredit to bring loan back to current status). Because of the very limited number of cases there is not yet a standardised process of information sharing during the bailiff process. However, we are more than happy to shed light on any of the loans to anyone who reach out to support@mintos.com. As of today only about EUR 10k of the mortgage loans are in the 60+ days category (of EUR 2.2m outstanding), all of which the borrowers are bringing back to current status by making partial payments. The complete statistics of late loans can be found here: www.mintos.com/en/statistics/.
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Post by red_panda on Nov 24, 2015 18:27:27 GMT
Thanks for shedding light to the bailiff process for mortgage loans. How about the other loan originators (LO) where there is a collateral, like Capitalia - business loans. Would Mintos as a platform request information on the bailiff progress from the LO?
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Post by martins on Nov 24, 2015 18:43:06 GMT
Yes, definitely. We do due diligence on each of the LO we connect to our platform, that includes also debt collection procedures. Once connected we follow closely the bailiff progress. However, similar to Hipocredit, there have been a very few cases where the borrowers have been late for business loans. Investors can read more about Capitalia and small business loans in the interview here: www.mintos.com/en/blog/learn-more-about-the-small-business-loans-on-the-mintos-platform/.
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Post by red_panda on Nov 24, 2015 19:32:14 GMT
Thanks for your replies, I really appreciate your communication here on these forums. The Capitalia interview is exactly what I was looking for!
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