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Post by gusgorilla on Mar 15, 2016 1:59:21 GMT
MoneyThing please help. I cannot find any record of the outcomes of past loans, payment status of current loans or loan statistics for amounts lost during recoveries from assets. I may just be looking in the wrong places. I would have liked to see a column on the completed loans page showing whether a loan was repaid, is in the process of being recovered, was fully recovered or suffered a loss (and how much loss) for example. FS has a list of all current and past loans with a couple of columns with this kind of information. It is interesting to go back and look at the full details of lossy loans to see if there are any clues that one could have noticed. FS also has a statistics page showing aggregate data on defaults, recoveries and losses. I'm dissapointed not to have found this on MT, although I can see that the portfolios might confuse matters. Is it staring me in the face somewhere and I just can't see it?
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Post by SteveT on Mar 15, 2016 8:00:14 GMT
All of the loans on the Completed Loans list have either been repaid in full or renewed. No defaults / losses / recoveries as yet.
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Post by MoneyThing on Mar 15, 2016 8:08:14 GMT
MoneyThing please help. I cannot find any record of the outcomes of past loans, payment status of current loans or loan statistics for amounts lost during recoveries from assets. I may just be looking in the wrong places. I would have liked to see a column on the completed loans page showing whether a loan was repaid, is in the process of being recovered, was fully recovered or suffered a loss (and how much loss) for example. FS has a list of all current and past loans with a couple of columns with this kind of information. It is interesting to go back and look at the full details of lossy loans to see if there are any clues that one could have noticed. FS also has a statistics page showing aggregate data on defaults, recoveries and losses. I'm dissapointed not to have found this on MT, although I can see that the portfolios might confuse matters. Is it staring me in the face somewhere and I just can't see it? Morning gusgorilla, We do not currently have a column on the completed loans page that shows the loan outcome. I agree that this should be present and it is on our to do list, however so far we have not had any loans go into default or are distressed in any way and therefore have dropped it down the list of tasks for the time being. (For clarity, there have been underlying defaults under the MPs, however these have been swapped out for good loans.) I agree that we need a good statistics page on the marketing site. We have a number of areas on the site we wish to bring up to date and refresh content. No ETA on these items just yet but shouldn't be long.... Kind regards, Ed
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Post by jonah on Mar 15, 2016 19:18:15 GMT
Whilst I hope that it never happens... Can you share a view of what would likely happen for a default, ideally one where the security was sufficient to cover the loan and one where it wasn't? Things like approach to the SM, interest ticking up or not and approach to dividing loses etc would all be interesting.
Obviously hopefully never be needed, but it be nice to know.
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Post by MoneyThing on Mar 16, 2016 13:01:57 GMT
Afternoon,
There is varying terminology that is used in the industry to describe the status of a loan default which is usually defined in terms of the trigger event and timescales involved (e.g. non-performing loans, distressed, impaired, in arrears, etc.)
We employ a few different loan agreements due to the different customer and asset types we lend against. In addition, whilst we pay lenders on a monthly basis, the borrower interest repayments vary between drawdown, monthly or term. Regardless of when interest is serviced by the borrower, we closely monitor the loans and have various provisions in place within our agreements for us to be able to step in early on if we believe a default situation is likely.
Loan Extension
There may be times when a borrower wishes to simply extend a loan for a fixed period of time and so long as we have been satisfied that repayment will happen, we will create a new loan which will be titled the same as the original loan with 'EXTENSION' at the end.
In this scenario, lenders will likely be given the opportunity to opt-in to rollover their investment. The SM would also continue to operate.
Since we maintain regular contact with the borrowers, we should be able to communicate this with lenders well in advance of the loan end date.
Default
In the event of a 'default', from a platform perspective the loan would work in a similar way to a 'renewal' whereby a new loan is created (which would share the same title as the loan but with 'DEFAULT' at the end rather than 'RENEWAL'). Unlike a renewal, all subscribed investors would automatically be carried over into the 'default' loan.
For the majority of our loan contracts, there is a higher default rate of interest charged to the borrower and therefore the newly created default loan will have a higher interest rate to lenders (e.g. 18% pa). However, interest will not be paid out until such time as the loan is either repaid or the security is disposed of through the recovery process. The SM market would also be suspended.
Regular updates will be communicated to investors through the platform as to our course of action & progress.
a) Default + Recovery
If the borrower then repays the loan in full OR the asset is disposed of and full recovery takes place (capital + interest + disposal/recovery costs), the loan will end on the platform and all outstanding accrued interest is credited back to lenders.
b) Default + Loss
In the event the asset is disposed of and full recovery is not possible, the loan will end and lenders will be credited an amount that is proportional to their % holding of the total amount recovered minus disposal/recovery costs.
We are in the process of reviewing all the content on our website to bring it up to date.
Kind regards,
Ed
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Post by littleoldlady on Mar 16, 2016 13:19:51 GMT
This seems fair. Perhaps in the future if MT flourishes they could consider establishing a discretionary Provision Fund. However I would not like this to be at the expense of riskier loans. Far better no PF and minimum defaults than a PF which proves insufficient.
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Post by ben on Mar 16, 2016 13:27:38 GMT
This seems fair. Perhaps in the future if MT flourishes they could consider establishing a discretionary Provision Fund. However I would not like this to be at the expense of riskier loans. Far better no PF and minimum defaults than a PF which proves insufficient. I know I am in the minority on here but I am willing to accept slightly less to have a provision fund, although I do invest in sites without them. So I would be all for a provision fund (obviously at a reasonable cost)
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Post by rogerbu on Mar 16, 2016 16:56:09 GMT
This seems fair. Perhaps in the future if MT flourishes they could consider establishing a discretionary Provision Fund. However I would not like this to be at the expense of riskier loans. Far better no PF and minimum defaults than a PF which proves insufficient. I know I am in the minority on here but I am willing to accept slightly less to have a provision fund, although I do invest in sites without them. So I would be all for a provision fund (obviously at a reasonable cost) I am happy that MT does not have a provision fund. Other platforms do - so platform diversification covers that. Within MT, ability to loan diversify (bidding and SM) covers that All platforms that have a provision fund appear to have used it as another cash cow. Overall rates have dropped significantly eg AC I wouldn't want all investments to be covered by provision funds. Ultimately - no risk, no fun! Personal views only
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Post by Financial Thing on Mar 16, 2016 19:25:38 GMT
Or how about a Provision Fund that the borrowers pays into?
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Post by ben on Mar 16, 2016 19:35:15 GMT
Or how about a Provision Fund that the borrowers pays into? Unless they increase the fees to borrower to pay for it all it will do is decrease the rate offered to us anyway so does not really matter who pays for it the end effect would be the same
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Post by jonah on Mar 16, 2016 19:48:01 GMT
Ed, thank you. Prompt and comprehensive. Pretty much what I've come to expect from MT!
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