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Post by shimself on Mar 23, 2016 9:52:48 GMT
seeing as the mods are on the rampage this week I thought I would use What On Earth? rather than the usual version I was somehat uneasy already to discover that RS now have a load of business loans. But now* they are buddying up with Syndicate Room to lend to businesses! Now I really like Syndicate Room, based in Cambridge with all the history of innovation there during the last 50 (my god 50!) years, innovation with better and better business understanding behind it during that time, really good angel investment expertise and their thing is that the angels invest but let less expert investors in alongside on the same conditions. That's good. But bearing in mind that despite all this most of these new businesses will lose money and fail, because life and competition and technical progress is like that. But why oh why would Ratesetter think it's a good idea to run this sort of risk with their customers' money? OK I think it means companies who have survived for a year or two rather than the near startups but even so. * lending-times.com/march-22nd-2016-daily-news-digest-lending-times/ Peer-to-peer lending platform RateSetter has entered into a unique referrals partnership with angel-led equity crowdfunder SyndicateRoom. The two alternative finance platforms will now refer businesses to one another depending on the specific funding requirements of those businesses. The dream scenario, we suspect, is that businesses that begin by taking on equity money atSyndicateRoom will in time develop to the point that a debt-based solution makes sense, which is when RateSetter comes in
RateSetter. The platform – which initially lent solely to consumers – published an update in November 2015, which revealed that 40% of its outstanding loan book was then comprised of loans to businesses (30% in commercial loans and 10% in property loans).
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Post by oldgrumpy on Mar 23, 2016 10:00:07 GMT
"...published an update in November 2015, which revealed that 40% of its outstanding loan book was then comprised of loans to businesses (30% in commercial loans and 10% in property loans).
Perhaps this should be highlighted more when comparisons with Zopa are made.
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Post by toffeeboy on Mar 23, 2016 11:38:58 GMT
I don't see the problem, they are going to be lending to the businesses once they are established not as start ups so I would assume they go through the same tests as everyone else to be able to get a loan. There could even be the added security of a guarantee from Syndicate room but nothing is mentioned of that so it is just a possibility.
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Post by pikestaff on Mar 23, 2016 15:26:08 GMT
There could even be the added security of a guarantee from Syndicate room but nothing is mentioned of that so it is just a possibility. I think I just saw a flying pig
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Post by propman on Mar 23, 2016 16:05:50 GMT
Everton fans have to be optimistic!
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Post by toffeeboy on Mar 23, 2016 17:09:49 GMT
Everton fans have to be optimistic! I am if we are away from home, it is just when we play at Goodison that I worry nowadays. That or if we go two nil up as our players seem to think the game is won then
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Post by westonkevRS on Mar 23, 2016 18:31:33 GMT
RateSetter aims to be diversified, we don't aim to be singularly consumer or business. We also don't try to forecast which sector will be impacted more or less differently to the last recession. Diversification makes us more robust as a platform to a downturn in one sector in terms of gaining new business or from defaults.
So as a fact RateSetter has a diversified set of borrowers across retail, business, mobile phones, real estate and point-of-sale. That's the model, and we've been very open and transparent about this. The Provision Fund covers and benefits from all lending types, so lenders are naturally diversified. If a lender has a problem with any type of lending then they have all the information to make their own decision. But we do not typically offer the choice to only invest in one type, it's all or nothing.
The arrangement with Syndicate Room is another channel to see potential borrowers. It doesn't increase the risk as they'll still be assessed in the standard way.
So it's all positive as far as I'm concerned, just increasing the eco system.
Kevin.
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Post by shimself on Mar 24, 2016 17:30:27 GMT
... The arrangement with Syndicate Room is another channel to see potential borrowers. It doesn't increase the risk as they'll still be assessed in the standard way. So it's all positive as far as I'm concerned, just increasing the eco system. Kevin. It seems unlikely that firms which have just moved out of the startup phase, which will be the case for Syndicate Room, have any concrete security. If I look on the site will I see what guarantees you ask of companies?
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Post by westonkevRS on Mar 25, 2016 8:06:49 GMT
No, the RateSetter underwriting credit policy and processes are not shared publicly for obvious reasons. And we do not provide details of individual loans other than the details you see in the contracts.
If you want to micro manage your portfolio and make loan by loan decisions, or invest based in the loan source there are plenty if niche P2P platforms that allow you to do that.
RateSetter aims to be boring and as simple as possible with safe fair lender returns. We invest your funds across a diverse portfolio of borrowers that will provide an acceptable risk reward return. You have to trust RateSetter to do this for you to the best of our abilities. We are proud of this approach, and don't try to be anything different.
Kevin.
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