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Post by buttchopf23 on Oct 25, 2016 8:41:05 GMT
Hello
I'm new to this platform and couldn't find anything about Defaults. Are there any to date? If yes, how did the end?
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Post by hendragon on Oct 25, 2016 8:48:51 GMT
The platform is quite new. A few loans have repaid (4 of mine IIRC), but it is too early to establish a record on defaults. Hopefully there will be none or very few
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Post by buttchopf23 on Oct 25, 2016 9:23:48 GMT
thanks, yes hopefully time will tell, in 6 months we maybe know more
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Post by stub8535 on Dec 12, 2016 8:49:15 GMT
Now that we are seeing several loans redeeming or renewing could we expect figures to be available soon, Gordon, showing the value by collection stages as they arise please? I am assuming that lenders have the risk and return until final redemption here. Is that the case or do the platform take on lates themselves?
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Post by dermot on Dec 12, 2016 9:51:07 GMT
No defaults on any of mine. I've now had 37 loan parts repaid - 23 unique loans, I think, as I had a number of duplicates.
Entirely happy with that.
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Post by pedz14 on Dec 12, 2016 10:32:34 GMT
Why do people keep mentioning defaults when surely it is not possible for a default to occur on the vast majority of loans as Collateral purchase the goods as per the extract from a typical loan detail below.
This loan is via a Buy Back Agreement (COLBB) whereby Collateral agrees to buy the goods from the client at a set price and gives the client the option to ‘buy back’ the goods within a set period of time, (in this case 6 months) at an agreed ‘buy back’ price.
Am I misunderstanding the extract or are people simply interested in the number of clients that do not take up the option? In which case it's all about how quickly that Collateral can sell the goods onto their trade partners.
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Post by dermot on Dec 12, 2016 10:58:15 GMT
I suspect your last paragraph is the key one - how long it might take to sell the asset should the borrower not choose to buy back.
I guess there isn't really an alternative word to 'default' - non-buybacker looks and sounds a rather ugly word!
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Post by stub8535 on Dec 12, 2016 11:16:33 GMT
My quetions were directed to Gordon for clarrification purposes. They were not intended to start another discussion on defaults. As C is talking about offering property loans, hopefully alongside their pawn ones, they are moving in the direction of fs hence the questions about defaults. Take a look at fs defaults/late book, which contains both pawn and propetty, if you think its unimportant. Before someone jumps in and says I am comparing apples with orangutans look at fs drop downs to see how they still market themselves as pawn loans.
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Post by pedz14 on Dec 12, 2016 11:29:15 GMT
The word default applies to any scenario where the borower fails to meet their obligation - which in this case would be a breach of the alleged 'buy back' contract, whether an alternate buyer has been lined up to buy the item(s) or not, the borrower would have still defaulted on their obligation. If the borrower has an option to buy back the goods that sounds like they are under no obligation to buy the goods back, therefore cannot default. It would be perfectly acceptable for them to walk away.
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