ashtondav
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Post by ashtondav on Sept 27, 2017 12:36:46 GMT
Says an article in the FT today, behind a paywall.
But the final paragraph.
"When it starts taking new money, it expects a lower targeted return of 4.5 per cent for new investors in Zopa Plus loans."
Gulp! Off to RS while I can get 6%+ and a PF.
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Post by aju on Sept 27, 2017 13:12:38 GMT
It didn't seem to stop me reading it - to be fair though I haven't been to FT in a while. Perhaps you can read it in incognito as well.
Nice pointer thanks.
Can't help thinking RS will eventually come into line as it seems be market forces and competition. If what I am reading lately there's gonna be an almighty crash/correction at some point too. Better hunker down and ride out the storm.
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Post by wyndstryke on Sept 27, 2017 13:49:14 GMT
They're changing the mix of borrowers in Z+ to be mostly A-C with only a few at D and E. So going forward Z+ is basically a mildly spiced version of classic rather than a high risk / high reward mix.
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Post by wapping35 on Sept 27, 2017 16:33:48 GMT
The very disappointing new 4.5% Z+ rate is, to be fair, given on the Target Returns tab of Zopa's website. So it seems to apply rather earlier than the end of the year.
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Post by wyndstryke on Sept 28, 2017 7:25:09 GMT
The very disappointing new 4.5% Z+ rate is, to be fair, given on the Target Returns tab of Zopa's website. So it seems to apply rather earlier than the end of the year. They announced the change in the Z+ mix in an email about ... ? Maybe 3 weeks ago? I don't recall the exact date but something like that. It generated a lot of posts here in any case.
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ashtondav
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Post by ashtondav on Sept 29, 2017 6:45:08 GMT
The very disappointing new 4.5% Z+ rate is, to be fair, given on the Target Returns tab of Zopa's website. So it seems to apply rather earlier than the end of the year. They announced the change in the Z+ mix in an email about ... ? Maybe 3 weeks ago? I don't recall the exact date but something like that. It generated a lot of posts here in any case. Yes, but the quoted rate was higher. Much higher.
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Post by wyndstryke on Sept 29, 2017 7:33:59 GMT
Where did you see the higher rate quoted? I found the email - titled 'Changes to the UK consumer credit outlook', dated 22nd August.
So 4.5% estimated return for new loans in Z+ which now has a lower risk profile than before, and 5.6% is the reduced estimated return for existing Z+ loans (so dropped by 0.6% from the original estimate).
I don't know if this includes or excludes my early adopter 0.5% discount. If it is inclusive, then other people's emails may say different figures. It would be interesting to compare the quoted rates with someone who has the full 1% discount, and someone else who does not get the early adopter discount.
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Post by wapping35 on Sept 29, 2017 7:38:20 GMT
The last weekly email was indeed showing higher projected rates for the prior 4 weeks.
4.97% for Plus. EDIT: (4.88% per today's weekly email, so effectively for September).
I believe the change came in about 4 weeks ago, so todays weekly email will show how close Z are to that 4.5%.
W35
p.s. My "projected return" (I understand from Z that is based on my actual loans held) for my Z+ account (now +12mths old) is 5.2%.
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