sl125
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Post by sl125 on Nov 18, 2017 11:13:00 GMT
I've been playing around with the sell functionality in order to try to offload any A+ and A loads that the system buys for me. Because my portfolio is large, occasionally I get allocated a single loan part of over £1000 from the secondary market. So, on the sell page I can enter £1000, and thankfully the system selects that specific part to sell. It then takes ages to sell, because it needs to find another person with a very large portfolio to sell it to.
However, what is fascinating is how the sell functionality works for the plethora of £100 parts it allocates on the primary market. I too thought that if I wait until the first payment had been made, then I should be able to sell a specific part based on entering the exact amount of the amortised balance (eg. a £100 A loan part with 59 weeks left will have a balance of £98.64). But whatever value I enter above £90, the system always selects a £100 loan part randomly. If, however, I enter a value of, say, £89, the system will select a loan part whose current balance is indeed around £89. And this seems to work for all smaller amounts too.
So, it leads me to think that FC have hardcoded a condition between £90 and £100 to always round up to £100, so as to avoid people gaming the system by selecting the residual balance amount of known A+ and A loans within the first few months.
Meanwhile, I have another headache: today is the 2nd month anniversary of the new system, and yet in all that time the automated system has allocated to me mostly A+, A, and one B and one C. Not a single D or E. Not sure how "balanced" this is, and how the new loans allocated to me will achieve the 7.5% goal.
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Post by skint4achange on Nov 18, 2017 11:39:40 GMT
I have just checked my portfolio on FC to see how it compares. I have the following (All were allocated by the new system):
19 x A+ 26 x A 22 x B 12 x C 15 x D 6 x E
My Gross % is showing as 11.6% and my expected Net is 7.5%
With mine, all loan parts are the same size (£20), do you have any "Old" loan parts from the old system that are quite large in your portfolio or has everything been allocated by Autobid?
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markr
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Post by markr on Nov 18, 2017 21:44:14 GMT
There's a big A+ (about 450k) that has been collecting bids orders since Thursday afternoon and hasn't filled yet. It's getting funds dribbled in slowly, presumably as lenders repayments (or added funds) tips them over the 0.5% threshold.
If you happen to have this in your orders and so can see it (the loan requests page has gone now), it's quite interesting to look through the bids orders list. After it was listed on the 16th, Autobidorder woke up and chucked bids orders at it until just before 6pm, when presumably it ran out of eligible funds. Activity slowed to a trickle though the night, but Autobidorder woke up again at 05:59, presumably as the repayment run started up. So it would seem that there isn't a huge amount of surplus cash floating around at the moment.
While idly browsing the bids orders list, I also noticed there's a few lenders who probably didn't realise how easy it would be to see their activity, including at least one university, a couple of councils and a fair few companies whose user names make it obvious who they are. And of course, since their total bids are always 0.5% of their investment, it's easy to work out how much they have invested. To be fair, though, anyone who wanted to could probably find my bids, too!
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Nov 19, 2017 9:00:34 GMT
Your 'orders' you mean. 8>.
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Post by skint4achange on Nov 19, 2017 9:46:09 GMT
To go back to the original question posted, I do not believe that FC are running out of funds. I believe that the reason it looks that way is because FC is now ensuring that no one investor can throw everything they have at the loan and buy it all up before other investors have had a chance to buy in. They also seem to have a rotation system. If you look at your loan/order numbers, you are not investing in all of their loans. Depending on size and risk rating (Of which looking at the defaults on the loan book appear to be irrelevant!) you may only be placing orders into every third or fourth loan.
Also, looking at the loan book, since the new system has been implemented FC have loaned over £231m. Now call me stupid, but if that is running out of funds I would have loved to have had their old bank balance!!!
There are always winners and losers in any change which is why some of the investors on forums are moaning about this change. I on the other hand have no idea about the "Old" system and so will base my opinions of FC on how they perform for me (As should everyone else IMHO).
When you look at the company figures for the P2P platforms in the UK, FC has by far the largest amount of shareholder equity (~£130m), where the next closest, RS has only ~£25m. Seems to me (And my very limited knowledge of finance) that FC is fairly stable (Even though they probably have the largest loan book).
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markr
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Post by markr on Nov 19, 2017 14:38:15 GMT
Your 'orders' you mean. 8>. Rats, missed one!
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