SteveT
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Post by SteveT on Jan 31, 2018 12:32:06 GMT
Another month-end reached and, on logging in, I discover that yet another of my long-defaulted ReBS loans (D**nem Collections Ltd) has now been entirely written off as Bad Debt, despite ReBS indicating as recently as last month that 20% recovery should be expected. This one is particularly ironic, since the borrower was a debt collection agency (you really can't make it up).
So, did ReBS send its affected lenders an email to inform them of this decision? No
Does the (well hidden) Dashboard link to the loan page still work, now that it's re-classified as a Bad Debt? No
Instead, I have to search the website for the now-inaccessible loan page via their "Site Map", eventually to find that a "Recoveries Update" (sic !) was added on 3rd Jan to explain that "at this stage it is expected that the likely (sic) of any recovery is very low".
ReBS is a complete shower.
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jonno
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Post by jonno on Jan 31, 2018 12:51:06 GMT
Without doubt this "complete shower" are the worst P2P platform I've had the misfortune to come across. It is clear that the only way I'm going to be completely shut of them is by them writing off my remaining bad debts. Luckily I never went large with them and ceased investing at a reasonably early stage so minimising the damage. But for some this platform really could prove a House of Pain.
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Post by stub8535 on Jan 31, 2018 18:46:19 GMT
Without doubt this "complete shower" are the worst P2P platform I've had the misfortune to come across. It is clear that the only way I'm going to be completely shut of them is by them writing off my remaining bad debts. Luckily I never went large with them and ceased investing at a reasonably early stage so minimising the damage. But for some this platform really could prove a House of Pain. Apart from the fact you can't be shut of them if you have defaults, and probably bad debts. They will hang around like a foul smell in your portfolio of roses.
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Post by thomascarlyle on Feb 6, 2018 23:52:49 GMT
Hello Jonno and the gang! Gosh I bet you're glad you bullied that old stick-in-the-mud Austrian Economist off the forum Look, I hate to say "I told you so" - no actually I love saying it: I told you so. You were all shepherded here by the low interest rates on your savings, you all felt like geniuses when you were looking to get 10% interest, and you've all been treated like suckers by one platform after another. I remember three years ago people talking about how awful other platforms were and how glad they were that they moved to REBS and some of the others. Now they're saying what a "shower" REBS is and how glad they are that they're using other platforms that are totally fine lol Sorry guys but it's not fine, and if you've got any sense you'll adopt the exact opposite approach to your finances: instead of high risk uninformed speculations in pursuit of high yield, just try to cling to some value. Pay off any debts you have, take out some one-year bonds with stable institutions, buy some premium bonds and sit back and watch the fireworks in the government debt market, the stock market, commodities futures and the alt.finance sector. Everything's in a bubble except common sense. I genuinely wish all of you well. I genuinely want all of you to come out of this wearing your shirts. Am I hopeful that anyone at all will listen, even at this late stage? Nope, about as likely as Americans not 'buying the dip' today.
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Post by stub8535 on Feb 7, 2018 0:18:50 GMT
Hello Jonno and the gang! Gosh I bet you're glad you bullied that old stick-in-the-mud Austrian Economist off the forum Look, I hate to say "I told you so" - no actually I love saying it: I told you so. You were all shepherded here by the low interest rates on your savings, you all felt like geniuses when you were looking to get 10% interest, and you've all been treated like suckers by one platform after another. I remember three years ago people talking about how awful other platforms were and how glad they were that they moved to REBS and some of the others. Now they're saying what a "shower" REBS is and how glad they are that they're using other platforms that are totally fine lol Sorry guys but it's not fine, and if you've got any sense you'll adopt the exact opposite approach to your finances: instead of high risk uninformed speculations in pursuit of high yield, just try to cling to some value. Pay off any debts you have, take out some one-year bonds with stable institutions, buy some premium bonds and sit back and watch the fireworks in the government debt market, the stock market, commodities futures and the alt.finance sector. Everything's in a bubble except common sense. I genuinely wish all of you well. I genuinely want all of you to come out of this wearing your shirts. Am I hopeful that anyone at all will listen, even at this late stage? Nope, about as likely as Americans not 'buying the dip' today. Such a positive outlook. Where's my instrument to get the end of the World hastened? There is always bitcoin or the bookmakers.
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Post by jonno on Feb 7, 2018 10:42:06 GMT
Hello Jonno and the gang! Gosh I bet you're glad you bullied that old stick-in-the-mud Austrian Economist off the forum Look, I hate to say "I told you so" - no actually I love saying it: I told you so. You were all shepherded here by the low interest rates on your savings, you all felt like geniuses when you were looking to get 10% interest, and you've all been treated like suckers by one platform after another. I remember three years ago people talking about how awful other platforms were and how glad they were that they moved to REBS and some of the others. Now they're saying what a "shower" REBS is and how glad they are that they're using other platforms that are totally fine lol Sorry guys but it's not fine, and if you've got any sense you'll adopt the exact opposite approach to your finances: instead of high risk uninformed speculations in pursuit of high yield, just try to cling to some value. Pay off any debts you have, take out some one-year bonds with stable institutions, buy some premium bonds and sit back and watch the fireworks in the government debt market, the stock market, commodities futures and the alt.finance sector. Everything's in a bubble except common sense. I genuinely wish all of you well. I genuinely want all of you to come out of this wearing your shirts. Am I hopeful that anyone at all will listen, even at this late stage? Nope, about as likely as Americans not 'buying the dip' Ah! The stock market has had a wobble has it?? They always come out don't they?
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Post by thomascarlyle on Feb 8, 2018 11:24:13 GMT
Endlessly entertaining.
So the failed platforms of 2015 were just the wrong platforms and the smart people moved to the right platforms.
Then in 2016, those platforms were revealed to have been the wrong platforms all along and the smart people moved to the right platforms, such as REBS.
Now in 2018, REBS has been revealed as a "shower" and the smart people have moved to the right platforms instead of sticking with the wrong platforms.
Nobody has an argument against what I just said because it's demonstrably true: people who used to put their money in the bank for 5% noticed that they were getting 0.3% and they Googled to see what was going on. They saw SavingStream offering 12% and all the promises about personal guarantees and second claims, found out what words like "debenture" and "amortization" meant, and thought "wow 1% a month, I'll have me some of them buggers".
Now they're all getting slaughtered and anyone who tries to help is ridiculed, banned and blacklisted.
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Post by Liz on Feb 18, 2018 1:20:19 GMT
Endlessly entertaining. So the failed platforms of 2015 were just the wrong platforms and the smart people moved to the right platforms. Then in 2016, those platforms were revealed to have been the wrong platforms all along and the smart people moved to the right platforms, such as REBS. Now in 2018, REBS has been revealed as a "shower" and the smart people have moved to the right platforms instead of sticking with the wrong platforms. Nobody has an argument against what I just said because it's demonstrably true: people who used to put their money in the bank for 5% noticed that they were getting 0.3% and they Googled to see what was going on. They saw SavingStream offering 12% and all the promises about personal guarantees and second claims, found out what words like "debenture" and "amortization" meant, and thought "wow 1% a month, I'll have me some of them buggers". Now they're all getting slaughtered and anyone who tries to help is ridiculed, banned and blacklisted. I say buy yourself some silver and wait for the fireworks. Inflation is coming.
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Post by SteveT on Apr 5, 2018 17:40:23 GMT
Another couple of months pass and now C****** Kitchens is written off as yet another total loss for ReBS lenders. " Our efforts to locate the debtors to continue our insolvency action against the loan guarantors has thus far proven unsuccessful" . Quelle surprise, and what a total waste of space are ReBS and their farcical "recovery projections"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 18:43:23 GMT
Another one bites the dust... ...One of mine. A* C**m**e C*n***l Ltd. michaelrebs lender update received 05/04/2018 presented here abridged:"To remind lenders, the company has since been liquidated and the sole director has been adjudged as bankrupt and subsequently been discharged from his bankruptcy order. There is one other guarantor who we have thus far been unable to locate.
After reviewing the case, we have moved to reclassify this loan as a bad debt."Once again Rebuilding Society.com and their recoveries nae we are collectively inept at recoveries team fail to locate another errant guarantor, once again this pitiful excuse for a p2p platform fails to protect its lenders interests."Without doubt ReBS platform are up to their necks in defaults, bad debts and lender dissatisfaction and one wonders if they may even be considered worthy of patronage, except to the FCA that is. danraj , rebsrep lest ye opt to forget your former deliberately? misleading loan profile page statement a further reminder: "Why are we safe to lend to?"
ReBS have since April 2016 protected themselves against the fallout from folly and any further blame, fully divested responsibility So in this respect and in this respect Only they do excel finding themselves sitting at the very top of the p2p league table. Round of applause please, ticker tape parade, roll out the red carpet! Alternately for those who find this unappealing how about an evening at the Panto guest appearance by Coco the Clown?
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Post by rb5286 on Apr 5, 2018 19:58:12 GMT
Rebs will go the way of their loan book before the end of the year. Maybe the administrators will be able to locate borrowers!
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Post by SteveT on Jul 4, 2018 9:31:49 GMT
I'm pleased to report that I'm now entirely shot of ReBS, managing to get my account formally closed by requesting that any future (vanishingly unlikely) recoveries on the remaining handful of zombie loan parts be donated to a charity of ReBS' choice
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Post by locutus on Jul 4, 2018 9:57:33 GMT
I'm pleased to report that I'm now entirely shot of ReBS, managing to get my account formally closed by requesting that any future (vanishingly unlikely) recoveries on the remaining handful of zombie loan parts be donated to a charity of ReBS' choice A Pyrrhic victory if ever I heard one. Closure is still good for the soul though.
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Post by SteveT on Jul 4, 2018 10:01:06 GMT
I'm pleased to report that I'm now entirely shot of ReBS, managing to get my account formally closed by requesting that any future (vanishingly unlikely) recoveries on the remaining handful of zombie loan parts be donated to a charity of ReBS' choice A Pyrrhic victory if ever I heard one. Closure is still good for the soul though. Even ReBS’ predictions totalled £90 recoveries. My own, less than £20. Not having to maintain a ReBS ledger in my monthly company accounts for years to come is definitely worth more to me than that!
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Post by captainconfident on Jan 10, 2019 11:22:08 GMT
Considering the projected financial results for 2017 I have completely emptied my REbs account except for 3 problematic loans of which one , at least, has 100% chance of 0% recovery. I am just going to sit back in 2018 and hopefully get a few pennies in recovery and collect on a wager with a friend where I predicted there would be no 2019 for Rebs. Of course I may lose and a serious buyer such as Virgin would snap this company up... So how much was this "wager" for? I see that if Rebs was taken over by another company, you would still pay out. I agree with your friend so may I also take your bet? adrian77 - have you paid your friend yet? I was wondering how much you'd added to your losses by doubling down with this unwise gambling?
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