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Post by scc on Aug 10, 2018 6:59:27 GMT
They are in a bit of an awkward position, aren't they? They want (and I would suggest - need) to be transparent with lenders while likely not wanting to reveal anymore of their hand to Offgem or prejudice any future options. The shift in tone is perhaps the most interesting thing about the communication.
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Post by optymystic on Aug 21, 2018 15:43:53 GMT
Ofgem responded to M******** V****** *** yesterday (Monday 20 August) with a short holding email to say that they would be providing a "further response" on Friday (24 August).
We might be deeply suspicious of a planned release of a "further response" on a bank holiday Friday. It is is hardly the moment one would choose to release a cordial invitation to negotiate. This of course follows earlier lengthy delays and inexplicable unavailability of staff. Ofgem appears to have been dragging its feet for many months.
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Post by beh on Aug 28, 2018 15:39:03 GMT
Some good news
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Post by scc on Aug 28, 2018 17:17:09 GMT
I'd say so too. But plenty to think about in terms of the future viability of this kind of business. The review letter makes for interesting reading. At the very least, it looks like the previous comms to investors have been forwarded to offgem!
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Post by listener on Aug 28, 2018 21:42:33 GMT
Did you all receive 2 emails within a short time today (TUESDAY)? The second one is not a direct repeat send. It's worded slightly differently and mentions the next payment due. It's worth reading the second one. I nearly didn't, as I assumed it was a repeat.
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Post by GentlemansFamilyFinances on Aug 29, 2018 7:33:09 GMT
STRICTLY PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL - NOT FOR ONWARD DISTRIBUTION That's the email I got. I think that without breaking too much confidentiality - it's good news.
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Post by justdabbling on Aug 29, 2018 14:35:59 GMT
Did you all receive 2 emails within a short time today (TUESDAY)? The second one is not a direct repeat send. It's worded slightly differently and mentions the next payment due. It's worth reading the second one. I nearly didn't, as I assumed it was a repeat. I received two emails, one for the CHP and one for the same company but different technology. We had previously received emails explaining the knock on effects on the other companies in this group.
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Post by listener on Sept 3, 2018 15:13:58 GMT
Ah, thank you. Not just a correction, then.
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Post by seb8072 on Sept 3, 2018 16:23:07 GMT
Did you all receive 2 emails within a short time today (TUESDAY)? The second one is not a direct repeat send. It's worded slightly differently and mentions the next payment due. It's worth reading the second one. I nearly didn't, as I assumed it was a repeat. I've only received one email which lists four next steps but doesn't mention anything about next payment.
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Post by scc on Sept 4, 2018 4:01:00 GMT
Did you all receive 2 emails within a short time today (TUESDAY)? The second one is not a direct repeat send. It's worded slightly differently and mentions the next payment due. It's worth reading the second one. I nearly didn't, as I assumed it was a repeat. Yes, I got two emails. One ended up being automatically filtered into a different folder though.
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Post by listener on Sept 4, 2018 7:08:16 GMT
Member of DD Central and scc, see justdabbling's explanation above. It turns out they're from different branches of the company. People with two different loan parts will have got two with slightly different info later on in the text, though both emails begin the same way.
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Post by astrogeezer on Sept 6, 2018 21:05:44 GMT
I believe an entity called CO2*****, backed by BEIS and therefore taxpayer’s money, have played a significant role and taken a large financial podotion in the original 1 year 12% debenture. I also believe that their reticence to participate in the 2nd long term debenture as a result of information that there may be issues with Ofgem’s possible refusal to accredit M***** V***** R** was a very valid reason why it looked increasingly likely that Abundance would never accumulate sufficient money to repay the original 1 year debenture holders. Let’s surmise that a backroom Ofgem staff member was unaware that BEIS, in the guise of CO2*****, was involved and for reasons best known to herself, decided to refuse accreditation. That of course meant that a substantial sum of taxpayers money went ‘down the drain’, never mind our money invested through Abundance. Now let’s further assume that certain, shall we say, ‘pressure’ was placed on Ofgem’s top brass to reconsider the RHI refusal. In such ‘hypothetical’ circumstances is it not reasonable to assume that he would be minded to ‘vary’ the original decision, with the proviso that certain conditions had to be met (LOL)? Would it not also make perfect sense that there has been an almost complete shut down of information from all participating players so as not to upset somebody's apple cart (aka cock-up)? Try as I might, I can not make any sense of the letter of ‘variance’ sent by Ofgem. Neither can Abundance. It has been a shambolic attempt to right a wrong, and all attempts to notify the media, for fear of Ofgem getting a good kicking, have been warned/threatened off. Now all that remains is for original participants to get their money back (plus interest one would expect and hope). Of course, certain options may be placed before us, such as some up front and the rest over the length of time for the 2nd debenture, or something similar. Let’s wait and see. But as one gets older, one gets wiser to how the World most times works.
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Post by jj on Sept 6, 2018 21:26:06 GMT
Yes, the world is certainly corrupt. The higher up you go the more it is. A bit hypocritical complaining about the likes of Russia when our Europeon democracies are just the same. Maybe in a slightly different way.
Obviously nobody is going to lose their job over this because, well the world is corrupt.
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Post by scc on Sept 7, 2018 16:29:26 GMT
Hilarious situation if true, astrogeezer.
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Post by justdabbling on Sept 8, 2018 17:39:51 GMT
According to optymystic in July the company CO2*** was formerly, implying not currently, a government funded sustainability company. This is nevertheless an interesting possible explanation for the whole debacle.
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