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Post by warn on Mar 1, 2018 8:03:45 GMT
Strange behaviour on my wife's QAA account this morning. It's set to "withdraw interest" - and at 3:30 interest of £x was credited. Then, at 3:52, £x was transferred from QAA to Cash, as expected, except the transfer took place FIVE times, with the result that QAA is £4x light, and Cash £4x up. Not a big deal for us -- amount is trivial and easy enough to move back, but an anomaly, particularly as my own account behaved totallycorrectly, so I thought I'd mention it, chris . Attachments:
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Post by chris on Mar 1, 2018 8:04:51 GMT
Thanks for raising, I'll look into it.
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Post by savernake on Mar 1, 2018 9:31:58 GMT
I notice the interest for my 30DAA has been deducted from the account balance and transferred to my cash account. The interest payment shouldn't have any impact on the account balance. So its the same situation as warn has pointed out, resulting in my cash account now having x2 interest and my 30DAA is x2 light. Strangely though, this hasn't happened on my QAA which appears to have paid interest correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 10:24:08 GMT
warn - only FIVE. SEVEN transfers in my account. Second month in a row that Assetz have messed up. Confidence in Assetz waning.
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Post by registerme on Mar 1, 2018 10:34:13 GMT
Yeah eight for me!
EDIT: Also raised it with support on livechat.
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Post by vaelin on Mar 1, 2018 11:56:53 GMT
Rookies. My 30DAA withdrew £50 interest 20 times.
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Post by jlend on Mar 1, 2018 13:19:13 GMT
It is not great there has been different issues two months running on this account.
The last time it took two goes for AC to fix for my account. The first fix resulted in a fraction of a penny being transferred rather than a 3 figure sum that they later sorted. At the time I was surprised they didn't pick this up with some sort of report.
I am sure AC will fix this.
For me it is more the concern about what AC have in terms of reconciliation checks and reporting in place generally given this experience.
With all the recent and planned changes comming up this feels like it might be something to double check.
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Post by dermot on Mar 1, 2018 19:55:09 GMT
I'm seeing a freeze on QAA, 40-odd quid not invested from a combination of cash account and QAA direct thus generating similar difference between the totals of investment v lent. Don't think I've seen that in a very long time.
I shoved all of it into QAA only with the same result.
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Post by jlend on Mar 1, 2018 20:11:34 GMT
I'm seeing a freeze on QAA, 40-odd quid not invested from a combination of cash account and QAA direct thus generating similar difference between the totals of investment v lent. Don't think I've seen that in a very long time. I shoved all of it into QAA only with the same result. Me to. This is the queue I see from my cash account to the qaa, so 96k at least queued at the moment? Cash £0.01 £3,549.46 4737 Cash < £0.01 £74,865.43 11052 Cash £0.02 £96,738.39 17352
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Post by jlend on Mar 1, 2018 20:27:00 GMT
Also I have my qaa set to withdraw repayments and interest but it's not done it this month and left the interest in the qaa from what I can see
1st Mar 2018 at 05:10 Investment into qaa direct from Quick Access Account -£27.53 1st Mar 2018 at 03:30 Interest payment for Quick Access Account for month 2018-02 @ 3.75% per annum £27.53
Worked fine in Feb from what I can see
1st Feb 2018 at 00:50 Inter account transfer to cash account > -£0.01 1st Feb 2018 at 00:30 Interest payment for Quick Access Account for month 2018-01 @ 3.75% per annum < £0.01
I may just be misreading the transactions.
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Post by dermot on Mar 1, 2018 20:54:13 GMT
Not that I would wish to cast any aspersions on any software engineers, but I wonder if this is - ahem - an unexpected feature from the new diversification code? Any thoughts, chris ?
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Post by warn on Mar 1, 2018 21:01:22 GMT
WRT OP, the 4 extra transfers were reversed (in one lump sum) at 16:50. Thank you, chris and cohorts. Yet again, the IT superbeings work their magic, and we're back in the best of all possible worlds. Yes, it's been a long day and I'm a little light-headed.
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Post by registerme on Mar 1, 2018 21:13:28 GMT
WRT OP, the 4 extra transfers were reversed (in one lump sum) at 16:50. Thank you, chris and cohorts. Yet again, the IT superbeings work their magic, and we're back in the best of all possible worlds. Yes, it's been a long day and I'm a little light-headed. lol, this morning I was asked, apparently on behalf of those "IT superbeings" to transfer the money back into the 30 day account myself . I was actually ok with it being out so I could redeploy but it made me laugh .
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Post by chris on Mar 1, 2018 21:33:19 GMT
Not that I would wish to cast any aspersions on any software engineers, but I wonder if this is - ahem - an unexpected feature from the new diversification code? Any thoughts, chris ? Explanation's actually quite complex. A few weeks ago we switched to asynchronous updating of account balances after certain transactions, so for a loan repayment the loan account balance would be reduced making sure funds were there, but each lender account would have transactions written but not added to their balances. That minimised database locks to only a few instead of needing to lock thousands of lender accounts at a time, reducing the chances of deadlocks and other performance issues from occurring. A separate process then went through updating each account balance one at a time. Repayments were getting difficult enough to process that we needed the performance boost. This had a knock on effect of making withdrawals harder to process, as if they're processed as the interest transaction is credited then the account balance would no longer reflect that amount being credited so the funds would "be there" for the withdrawal to clear. We thought about processing them asynchronously but then you have race conditions and other issues to deal with so instead allowed metadata to be added to the interest payments that would cause a withdrawal to be triggered when the separate background process went through and settled each transaction. This has been working fine for normal repayments but there was a bug in the code for the access account repayments whereby the meta data wasn't being correctly reset / cleared when inserting each new interest payment into the database. This caused multiple transactions for different lenders to include the last withdrawal requests. So if a lender withdrew some interest and then four others had repayments before another lender had a withdrawal request then that first lender would have had their withdrawal request submitted four times. There was never any danger of money moving between lender accounts as we use a template system for all financial transactions which limits where and how money can move to predefined patterns. And there was nothing the reconciliation system could detect as all the balances were correct in all the accounts, and funds hadn't been created or destroyed, it was just that the withdraw requests had been accidentally processed multiple times. A code fix has been deployed and tested, the erroneous withdrawals corrected, and lender support desk briefed.
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Post by dermot on Mar 2, 2018 0:03:32 GMT
Thanks for the comprehensive answer!
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