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Post by brokenbiscuits on Jun 2, 2018 10:28:48 GMT
"I used to enjoy reading these forums but it’s so very complainy these days!"Of course it is. Around 18 months/2 years back, everything was fine n dandy. The biggest complaint was about bots snapping everything up in the sm! But this was when defaults didn't exist as the loan book was fairly immature, pretty much full of long dated loans. Even negative day loans were snapped up, as interest was paid - remarkable really looking back. I was in the 'buy anything and then pass on the parcel camp'. Clearly 12% was not going to be plain sailing.... All the complaining would make sense if lendy was the only p2p platform or p2p was the only form of investment available? There seem to be people that openly admit they have nothing invested in lendy, some like to even go so far as to brag about having nothing invested , but still turn up to clutter the boards with messages about how terrible lendy are. I have a little less than I used to but still buy a new loan if I like the credentials. But if I thought it was a terrible product I’d just move onto something I thought wasn’t terrible. A number of funds I hold are doing better than 12% and if you don’t sell on drops there is not as much chance of capital loss than in p2p. It’s likely that a number of people got into p2p to escape the perceived risk of the main alternative, the stock market, and instead bought into a load of other risk that they maybe hadn’t considered (but with more chance of capital loss it seems). A balanced approach is the answer. Reading about people who have all their money in p2p is alarming. I prefer to sleep well at night. A loss of every single penny I hold in peer to peer would be a blow to my ego but wouldn’t ruin me financially. It’s only a low percentage of the total pot. My advice for the masses would be Try to Make good informed choices. Move on if it’s not for you and don’t waste too much time hating on the internet. There’s much more effective ways of getting things done and much better uses of our time!
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Post by wanderer on Jun 2, 2018 20:54:33 GMT
Sorry our losses are so tedious and inconvenient for you to read. If Lendy were to promptly recover even 80% of my capital (forget the interest) I would happily move on. Given that Lendy doesn't allow discounts on the secondary market of course it is completely illiquid and the whole system is completely broken. you can't really expect people who have quite significant (to them) amounts of money tied up in limbo to be singing Lendy's praises. I used to invest in the stock market before Lendy and at least then you could take a loss if you wanted to.
So all the self-appointed "sophisticated" investors can carry on crowing about how they escaped the Lendy car crash unscathed, and the rest of us just suffer on.
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Post by michaelc on Jun 2, 2018 21:21:30 GMT
Sorry our losses are so tedious and inconvenient for you to read. If Lendy were to promptly recover even 80% of my capital (forget the interest) I would happily move on. Given that Lendy doesn't allow discounts on the secondary market of course it is completely illiquid and the whole system is completely broken. you can't really expect people who have quite significant (to them) amounts of money tied up in limbo to be singing Lendy's praises. I used to invest in the stock market before Lendy and at least then you could take a loss if you wanted to. So all the self-appointed "sophisticated" investors can carry on crowing about how they escaped the Lendy car crash unscathed, and the rest of us just suffer on. I do wonder how many of the OPs in the Lendy loan threads on this board have managed to cash out.
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Post by jaswells on Jun 2, 2018 22:27:47 GMT
"I used to enjoy reading these forums but it’s so very complainy these days!"Of course it is. Around 18 months/2 years back, everything was fine n dandy. The biggest complaint was about bots snapping everything up in the sm! But this was when defaults didn't exist as the loan book was fairly immature, pretty much full of long dated loans. Even negative day loans were snapped up, as interest was paid - remarkable really looking back. I was in the 'buy anything and then pass on the parcel camp'. Clearly 12% was not going to be plain sailing.... Yes tone has changed and unfortunately a turn in sentiment can seriously impact the viability of a platform. Lets hope not in this case but Lendy do need to get things moving AND bring in a new pipeline of loans. The situation now was foreseeable. Did anyone actually think the kind of loans on offer would be repaid in a timely manner problem free? Patience is needed. Some losses must be expected. Point has been made about crappy valuations.
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Post by Jeepers on Jun 3, 2018 13:14:40 GMT
It's in everyone's interest to introduce discounting to the SM.
If disgruntled investors are given an exit route, it stops them becoming vocal on TP and the forums damaging Lendy's reputation.
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Post by xpubman1 on Jun 3, 2018 16:01:18 GMT
Hi all, I havnt used Lendy for quite a few months. Ive just logged in and nearly all my loans (45 of them) are showing as remaining -348 days etc... Some even as long as -500 days!!! Is anyone elses Lendy account like this? Is there a chance that most of my capital (and interest?) will be recovered? Is it worth me logging some of these loans as being losses on my tax return!? Thanks Most people writing on this forum think that Lendy is running against a wall. Too many defaults, too high a percentage of their total offerings, to survive. They have shown very good profits on their latest accounts (3.3 mil), but lenders are suffering from their extremly poor valuations and very slow recovery actions. Luckily I have stopped investing many months ago here, but am still expecting the end of some loans (DFL005, DFL001). Not much you can do at this stage (you are too late), just wait and hope.
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Post by xpubman1 on Jun 3, 2018 16:06:42 GMT
A small snippet of info to use as a P2P comparison..... The Pussy Platform has a total of loans in default or arrears currently at 22.5% of its Loan Book, they have just employed a new Head of Credit.......
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Post by empirica on Jun 4, 2018 19:56:40 GMT
I'm 'only' seeing 31 loans that are defaulted with capital outstanding (plus five that are being chased for unpaid interest) - it would appear that there are 15 (edit: possibly 13 after two repayments) tucked away that I have yet to discover. Sorry if I'm being dense, but where are they? Well, this is what my dashboard shows: A bag of lemons yes!? OK _ see where the numbers come from now. Can understand including the Interest Accruing, not so sure about the ones with Interest on Account, but it's only five. Either you are the unluckiest P2Per ever and picked 40+ stinkers or you've invested in practically every Lendy loan since (at least) PBL027 which means you should have also seen a number of loans repay? How does the dashboard on the Repaid Loanparts look? Given lemons, trying to make lemonade Actually, it raises a question for me _ Is there a part of the website which shows an investor their overall position for the lifetime of their relationship with Lendy? (eg: overall return on investment) There's no obvious sign of it, and a lack of FAQ / Support notes about it could suggest there isn't one.
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Post by p2plender on Jun 4, 2018 23:17:24 GMT
Is there a part of the website which shows an investor their overall position for the lifetime of their relationship with Lendy? (eg: overall return on investment) There's no obvious sign of it, and a lack of FAQ / Support notes about it could suggest there isn't one.
I'm pretty sure such information would be terrifying for some late to the party investors..
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Post by tx on Jun 5, 2018 7:36:07 GMT
Another false belief of selection and time diversification. All loans are risky, and the biggest risk of all, platform risk, ie Ly itself. As long as Ly continues it’s business, then no one lose capital and everyone has some return. All those 8% 9% loans are ridiculous, none reduces the Ly risk in my opinion.
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Post by empirica on Jun 6, 2018 17:04:48 GMT
" Either you are the unluckiest P2Per ever and picked 40+ stinkers or you've invested in practically every Lendy loan since (at least) PBL027 which means you should have also seen a number of loans repay?" Yes, I bought bits of nearly every loan. (Stupid I know!! But thought Id diversify!!). Some of the loans Im heavily weighted in because I invested in all the tranches. " How does the dashboard on the Repaid Loanparts look?" What date range does this show for? Surely not all time? Ive got through my past Lendy/SavingStream tax statements and totaled up the interest and its twice as much as what the interest figure is on the Repaid Loans dashboard. The interest Ive been paid (looking at my past tax statements) is just less than a 3rd of my current total capital on the platform(!!!)Ones of these days, I will get around to data modelling an all-loans approach to Lendy. I'm not expecting it to be great _not least based on your experience_ but my intention was to only invest in one tranche of any DFL. (And do a PBL only version which may have considerable cash drag at the moment and would include some actual 'losses' _ eg: sold security below LTV.)
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Post by investor1925 on Jun 13, 2018 13:31:07 GMT
Mmmmmm, just did a quick analysis of my existing loans:
40.3% can be sold, so may well be giving me interest. To be fair, I got over 10% in interest last month if only the 40% are performing
59.7% sell option is not available, so probably not performing.
So basically this means that almost 60% of my loans are duff in default.
This is easily the worst performing set of p2p loans on any of the 8 platforms I am in at the moment
Very difficult to sell any at the moment, as the queues vary between £4k and £431k, the average being £117k. Ouch!
I've been with Lendy since Feb 2016
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Post by invester on Jun 13, 2018 14:32:29 GMT
I think anyone investing for a length of time will have a significant amount of their funds stuck.
I would have appreciated at least the chance to diversify out of it. But there are so few genuine new opportunities here, just endless tranches of existing loans.
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Post by hazellend on Jun 13, 2018 17:06:59 GMT
Mmmmmm, just did a quick analysis of my existing loans: 40.3% can be sold, so may well be giving me interest. To be fair, I got over 10% in interest last month if only the 40% are performing 59.7% sell option is not available, so probably not performing. So basically this means that almost 60% of my loans are duff in default. This is easily the worst performing set of p2p loans on any of the 8 platforms I am in at the moment Very difficult to sell any at the moment, as the queues vary between £4k and £431k, the average being £117k. Ouch! I've been with Lendy since Feb 2016 I don’t think you understand what a non performing loan is.
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Post by Jeepers on Jun 13, 2018 17:20:57 GMT
Mmmmmm, just did a quick analysis of my existing loans: 40.3% can be sold, so may well be giving me interest. To be fair, I got over 10% in interest last month if only the 40% are performing 59.7% sell option is not available, so probably not performing. So basically this means that almost 60% of my loans are duff in default. This is easily the worst performing set of p2p loans on any of the 8 platforms I am in at the moment Very difficult to sell any at the moment, as the queues vary between £4k and £431k, the average being £117k. Ouch! I've been with Lendy since Feb 2016 I don’t think you understand what a non performing loan is. you're getting returns over 10% so at least 80% of your portfolio is performing. You're in a good position.
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