fric
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Post by fric on Sept 7, 2018 12:06:05 GMT
Received this e-mail from bondora... What to expect? What is this bolded part? I have a lot of defaulted loans and I'm thinking of liquidating all - I suddenly have a vibe that I should liquidate everything before 14th of september?
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jay
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Post by jay on Sept 9, 2018 0:10:16 GMT
It's Bondora, how can you expect anything good
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fric
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Post by fric on Sept 10, 2018 5:44:27 GMT
It's Bondora, how can you expect anything good Sadly that's true...
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Post by coolrunning on Sept 14, 2018 11:21:51 GMT
And now, no access to the 2nd market even after agreeing to the new terms
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0risk
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Post by 0risk on Sept 14, 2018 13:28:41 GMT
And now, no access to the 2nd market even after agreeing to the new terms
I logged out and in again and it worked for me. I simulated selling to Go & Grow to see how much my portfolio is really worth. It' 80%. I'll stick with it as it is for now.
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fric
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Post by fric on Sept 14, 2018 14:42:24 GMT
And now, no access to the 2nd market even after agreeing to the new terms
I logged out and in again and it worked for me. I simulated selling to Go & Grow to see how much my portfolio is really worth. It' 80%. I'll stick with it as it is for now. How do you do that? I see everything basically the same way as before?
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Post by 0risk on Sept 14, 2018 15:41:34 GMT
I logged out and in again and it worked for me. I simulated selling to Go & Grow to see how much my portfolio is really worth. It' 80%. I'll stick with it as it is for now. How do you do that? I see everything basically the same way as before? Be careful when you do that. I went to my Investments, and clicked on the button "Add your existing Bondora investments to the Go & Grow account". It then shows how much it would be worth if you move your whole portfolio to Go&Grow. It also shows an option to confirm the transfer (which is non reversible). I don't think there is an option to move only part of the portfolio. If you don't see the button, you have to log out and log in again
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fric
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Post by fric on Sept 14, 2018 16:06:32 GMT
Sooo it has nothing to do with secondary market??
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0risk
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Post by 0risk on Sept 14, 2018 18:13:40 GMT
Sooo it has nothing to do with secondary market?? It has. After you agree to the new t&c, you can put a loan to secondary market as before, but you have also the option to sell the whole portfolio to go&grow immediately. I think they saw people getting hurt in secondary market, and wanted to create a protection layer (also to protect them against lawsuits)
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fric
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Post by fric on Sept 14, 2018 18:41:52 GMT
Sooo it has nothing to do with secondary market?? It has. After you agree to the new t&c, you can put a loan to secondary market as before, but you have also the option to sell the whole portfolio to go&grow immediately. I think they saw people getting hurt in secondary market, and wanted to create a protection layer (also to protect them against lawsuits) Can you post a screen on how you could sell it to go & grow? I don't see it, I only see the old style secondary market. I did accept the t&c.
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0risk
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Post by 0risk on Sept 14, 2018 22:16:15 GMT
It has. After you agree to the new t&c, you can put a loan to secondary market as before, but you have also the option to sell the whole portfolio to go&grow immediately. I think they saw people getting hurt in secondary market, and wanted to create a protection layer (also to protect them against lawsuits) Can you post a screen on how you could sell it to go & grow? I don't see it, I only see the old style secondary market. I did accept the t&c. sure. Attachments:
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carlos
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Post by carlos on Sept 17, 2018 8:21:03 GMT
So basically they don't want our API based scripts to trade with regular customers. They feel that "human" customers are handicapped using the platform, because they don't have realistic overview and expectations based on information and UI that platform provides. And that is in fact true.
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fric
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Post by fric on Sept 18, 2018 5:53:14 GMT
Can you post a screen on how you could sell it to go & grow? I don't see it, I only see the old style secondary market. I did accept the t&c. sure. Yeah, but that is only to move your existing loans to your go & grow account, imho it has nothing to do with selling. And you can only do that with current loans. Bondora is just moving more and more away from the usual method where you are in control and decide in what loans to invest etc. Imho, their long term plan is just to go fully to like a fund structure - you buy 100 bondora fund shares worth x and you don't really know what is in there.
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0risk
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Post by 0risk on Sept 18, 2018 11:15:21 GMT
I see your point. I think it's a nice feature that you can now move to Go&Grow and then redeem it right away.
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Post by JamesFrance on Sept 18, 2018 12:50:45 GMT
I would think that this way you can be sure of losing money. If you wait the defaulters may pay something in a few years, although how much of that will be taken by Bondora you will find out eventually, it is unlikely to be less than the about 40% they are currently helping themselves to.
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