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Post by blender on Sept 20, 2014 7:47:14 GMT
Yes of course GSV, 7349 nothing for sale, 7620 1 part - these are large property loans. Plenty for sale at par in my loan parts for sale - nothing seen by others. Check those numbers yourself, please. They seem to have wiped a number of loans, without altering the status you see.
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min
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Post by min on Sept 20, 2014 8:11:58 GMT
I assume you looked from a different logon _ you are never shown your own parts. Didn't expect to see mine but from previous posts others have got parts up for sale. Expected to see something for sale.
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Post by davee39 on Sept 20, 2014 8:18:38 GMT
Clearly they have wiped all the rival loan parts so they can sell their own!
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Post by blender on Sept 20, 2014 8:23:52 GMT
Or fill the primary market property loans with Autobid repayments, but that has not happened overnight. With FC one should always apply the cock-up theory first; not sure that they could manage a conspiracy.
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Post by blender on Sept 20, 2014 9:30:08 GMT
Just tried delisting and relisting 25 parts of 7349 (which had no parts for sale). Five of them made it to be seen by others. All of them show in Loan parts for sale. This is seriously broken.
Edit: Hmmm 4 sold at par to one purchaser, the other disappeared. So relisted well over 100 parts and 29 made it.
Odd thing about 7349 is that it paid interest this morning but that does not explain why all its parts for sale were not visible and you can relist only one in five successfully. It's a lonely loan on the SM.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Sept 20, 2014 11:23:37 GMT
I have 110 C parts for sale at par all yesterday and today and sold one. OK they are below MBR but I would expect to offload a few more than that at 9-9.4%.  |
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Sept 20, 2014 16:19:05 GMT
7349 I see 29 or so parts at par, but nothing at discount or premium, which seems unlikely?!
7620 there are several hundred, at par and discount, which looks about right to me.
Cock-up seems likely, especially as they are probably fiddling with it again .. not that it worked right before they started. 8<.
My SM parts are mostly selling, but rather slowly, but some appear to not be listed - eg 7890, can anyone see any of those?!
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Post by goldservice on Sept 20, 2014 16:45:38 GMT
No, I can't see any 7890 parts at all.
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Post by blender on Sept 20, 2014 17:34:09 GMT
7349 I see 29 or so parts at par, but nothing at discount or premium, which seems unlikely?! ... They are all mine, out of about 150 of 7349 listed today. Try seeing how many you can buy. I don't really need them.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Sept 20, 2014 19:37:48 GMT
Strangely I don't need them either, thanks.8>.
Nor do I need the ones I have for sale, which don't show up. Email sent to FC .. I now just need to wait 2 days for the 'we are very busy and couldn't reply yet' reply, then another couple of days for the answer, by which time I expect the problem will have mysteriously vanished anyway.
I WONDERED why my secondary market sneaker-peeker said that the rates were lower today - the answer is now obvious: a large slice of parts doesn't show up (it just looks at page N of the 'all parts for sale', to see what the rates are doing, where N is large enough that a single loan with a lot of parts won't move things too much).
PS the 'funds available' number on the 'loan parts' page is also wrong/stuck, and no amount of refreshing will make it match what it says on my summary, or other pages?!?
PPS .. a mass de-list/relist seems to have caused at least some of the parts to show up, since they are now selling .. which black hole they were in before is a mystery. Presumably the server at FC failed to have them in the 'for sale' database, even though they were 'for sale' as far as everything else was concerned, hence any searches for loan parts failed to find them (although delist, and 'my parts for sale' etc. etc. could see them perfectly well. The FC secondary market facilities do have quite a few known (at least to everyone else apart from FC) bugs. 8>. I shall make hay before everyone else de-lists and re-lists too.
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Post by spyrogyra on Sept 21, 2014 18:57:45 GMT
Many other loans seems to be affected.
I've cross-checked the visible parts for sale on a few loans on SM from different family accounts, de-listed and re-listed parts with partial success.7450, on one of the accounts 3 out of 6 showed up, on another one only one showed up from 5 in total.
Who will be the lucky ones to sell x amount at high premium?
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Post by goldservice on Sept 21, 2014 19:15:17 GMT
A shot in the dark: I have sometimes noticed large wedges of parts (eg 60 out of 110 parts for a loan) disappearing (so that there are now only 50 parts available.) All the parts come back after a while. I had assumed that the 60 have been 'reserved' by the dbms while a user has a purchase option on them. It now occurs to me that this behaviour might be triggered by an overactive buy-bot. And this might also explain why so many of you are also now reporting missing parts for sale - perhaps someone's buy-bot has gone on a rampage while unsupervised - could this really happen?!
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Sept 21, 2014 20:39:52 GMT
I don't think a buy bot can tie up parts so they don't appear .. normally what happens if a part is already being bought is that you see it, and when you press the 'buy' button you get told "no deal".
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Post by min on Sept 22, 2014 7:32:27 GMT
Warning Sell parts is cheating you. Noticed earlier that a loan part put up for sale with 0.3% premium was going to earn me LESS than the FC fee which should be 0.25%. Have contacted FC and will await outcome.
Won't put the screen shot up here but rest of message to them was:
"If you look at the attached screen shot you will see a loan part offered for sale with 0.3% premium. It shows this to be worth 4p. The FC fee of 0.25% is showing with a value of 5p.
How can 0.25% produce a higher amount than 0.3%?
The complete list of amounts shown was:
0.1%. 1p
0.2% 2p
0.3% 4p
0.4%. 7p
Assuming that you round amounts down then the actual figures should be
0.1%. 1p
0.2% 3p
0.3% 5p
0.4%. 7p
If you are consistent on rounding down then the FC fee should be 4p."
The loan part has a value of £18.17
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Post by thehappy1nvestor on Sept 22, 2014 10:15:13 GMT
Seems to be down again - I've tried listing several different loan parts and none show up as having others for sale, which is clearly not the case.
Spoke to FC just now - it's a priority for their tech team right now as it's an issue they're aware of.
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